Garry,
I had the pleasure of meeting you and coming over your house to see your bu
ild during SNF back around 2002. I brought the beer. LOL. I really enjoyed
our talk and it was then I decided to make my Europa purchase.
In all the times I have been on this forum I have never heard anyone speak
negatively about of the Rotax. It was as if it was sacrosanct and no one wa
s to speak ill of the almighty Rotax. I guess I don't feel so bad going wit
h the Jabiru. I am sure all engines have their idiosyncrasies.....I just ho
pe mine are more reasonably priced.
Mike Duane
Redding, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: Garry Stout <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Fri, May 27, 2011 3:25 pm
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
Jeff, I had a somewhat similar problem once too. The wires to the ignition
odule had broken internally. Fortunately I was able to repair them as a
ew ignition module was, I think, priced at about $US 800.
Then last year I experienced an intermittent "surging" of the engine.
ouldn't get more than 4,000 RPM or the engine would start cutting out. I
hecked all the usual suspects for problem areas and came up blank. I then
ad the finest Rotax minds in the business pour over the engine with their
omputers and engine analyzers, etc. They spent 4 weeks checking out the
ntire engine, and swapping almost every accessory part, and guess what?
hey could not determine the cause of the problem. They gave up.
Rotax is a pretty good engine......when it runs as it should. When it stop
s
unning, God help you. It is so complex and there are so few people around
ho are capable of diagnosing problems, if any at all, that you're flat out
tuck. I don't think I would buy another Rotax engine.
Garry Stout
----Original Message-----
rom: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Roberts
ent: Friday, May 27, 2011 5:14 PM
o: europa-list@matronics.com
ubject: Re: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
Not jumping on the band wagon but I'm having a similar problem. I discovere
d
ometime back this vibration that continued to get worse. After many
ttempts at balancing the carbs and the sensenich carbon prop I finally
hanged back to the warp drive 3 blade. I then had it balanced but It was
erfect. I balanced the carbs again and they we're almost perfect. Still at
800 to 3000 static on the ground theres this annoying vibration. Maybe more
han annoying as I don't want to fly with it. Sitting at an idle static I
ecided to do a 1800 to 2000 RPM mag check and noticed a smooth left / A mag
ut a rough running right B mag. Spent days checking all the obvious stuff.
lugs, wires with a timing light and still nothing. At this point I've had
wo Rotax certified mechanics and we still have not solved the problem.
rying to isolate the source we switched the 4 prong plugs going into the
ag's and the vibration was still on the B side. Finally we switched the 6
rong plugs going int!
o the coils and the vibration switched to the A or left mag on check.
alled Lockwood and they believe it's not in the coils but what else could
t be? Any thoughts would be appreciated. I'm not only frustrated but like
emi I wish I had a thirsty Lycoming hanging on the front. Rotax may be
ight and yes I know most swear by them but for me.... I just want to swear
t it.
nyone working on trying the new UL power on the Europa.
eff R.
128LJ Gold Rush
On May 27, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Terry Seaver (terrys) wrote:
terrys@cisco.com>
Hi Remi,
I am afraid I missed the earlier parts of this thread, but I just wanted
to let you know we had loose wires that would normally be connected (the
insulation held the broken pieces in contact), and would only break in
the presence of vibration, or when we pulled on the wire. We just ran
the engine at idle and gently pulled on each wire that came into the
ignition bundle until the engine idle stumbled.
If someone already suggested this, sorry for the duplication.
Regards,
Terry
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Remi
Guerner
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 1:11 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
<air.guerner@orange.fr>
Mike,
I have been working on the problem almost full time for the last ten
days. I have not found any broken wire in the ignition system. I have
ordered a new ignition module and will test it as soon as I get it.
I will let you know what I find.
Of course I regret the good old Lycoming of my previous plane: it was
using a lot more fuel but was a lot more reliable and required a lot
less maintenance time and money.
Cheers
Remi
F-PGKL still grounded, courtesy of Rotax
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