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Re: Europa-List: Melting silencer

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Melting silencer
From: Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 23:46:18

No, it was a little forward of that. Think of the temperatures. What is 
stainless steel melting point ?
And if the heat came from the inside, why is not burned right through ?

Karl


>From: "Duncan & Ami McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Melting silencer
>Date: Mon, 7 May 2007 20:52:44 +0100
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><ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
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>Was the "heat-stressing" opposite where one of the header pipes goes in to 
>the silencer i.e. where hot gases directly from the end of the header pipe 
>would impinge internally?
>
>Duncan McF.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Heindl" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 2:17 PM
>Subject: Europa-List: Melting silencer
>
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>>The mod 72 has one good side benefit, it gives us the chance for a real 
>>close inspection of the back of the engine and underneath. I had to remove 
>>the silencer for better access to the firewall and two bottom frame bolts. 
>>Here is what I discovered :
>>The bottom of the silencer , starboard side, an oval area of 30x90mm was 
>>badly pitted with strong signs of having melted. The aluminum duct 
>>directly underneath is similarly affected. I tapped the affected area with 
>>a hammer to look for any weakness, but it appears to be still okay. The 
>>aluminum is paper thin and needs to be patched.
>>
>>My installation is a standard 912S fwf kit with stainless exhaust system 
>>and Singleton firewall. I never experienced any temperatures (according to 
>>the EIS) above the permissable ranges. The EGT probes are on the exhaust 
>>stubs of cylinders 3 and 4.  I never noticed anything unusual.
>>There is no other heat damage. The coolant pipe directly behind it to the 
>>radiator shows no sign of anything unusual.
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>>My questions are:
>>
>>Has anyone ever experienced or heard of anything like this before ? What 
>>could be the possible cause ? What is the melting point of stainless steel 
>>?
>>
>>There is no direct fresh air to the bottom of the engine. Some time ago I 
>>had taped off the starboard NACA duct, as it was supposedly designed for 
>>the 914. There was no detrimental effect to the engine temperatures. I 
>>have now opened up the precut flap in the starboard side of the alu duct, 
>>which will divert some fresh air to the silencer. (I believe this flap was 
>>also designed for the 914).
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>>One very long shot : Could there be any electrical sparking between the 
>>two surfaces, acting like a capacitor ? I just don't see how those high 
>>temperatures could come from the exhaust gases without also burning the 
>>outside of the fuselage etc.
>>
>>I wonder if anyone knows. And any help greatly appreciated.
>>
>>Karl
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