Michael,
If that recommendation comes from E04, then at least you should have no
trouble getting all the support from them and a full set of the installation
instructions.
As for engine choice I go along with what Myron had to say, but everybody
has different ideas.
For me the 914 didn't justify the extra odd 8000 or so dollars, I already
paid out way more than I had budgeted for. I agree about the safety aspect
regarding high rate of climb, but a cs prop would take care of that with any
of the engines. I have flown the Katana with the 80hp Rotax and two-bladed
cs prop
>From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:23:40 -0500
>
>
>Karl,
>
>I appreciate your feedback.
>
>I would like to purchase the fwf package from Europa2004 direct but I was
>advised by them that I would have to source the Engine and Prop by myself
>because Rotax wants to keep it with their local distributor for warranty
>claims etc. and second it would be cheaper anyway (The Euro and the Pound
>gained more then 30% last year). They also advised me to contact Airmaster
>direct as well.
>I am actually a firm believer that we all should source as much as possible
>to bring Europa back on its feet which in return would warrant the factory
>support in the long time and therefore also secure our investment but in
>this case I do not seem to have this option or at least it does not seam
>feasible.
>You are absolutely right with the mountainous or better the lag of
>mountainous landscape in Michigan but I decided on the Europa as a touring
>machine and in terms of the 912ULS the high compression is rather a turn
>off
>for me. The high compression has a higher demand on fuel quality and even
>the highest available fuel grade here in Michigan is just marginal. The
>higher compression means detonations are more likely (OK the turbo boost
>reverses somehow this argument but you still could throttle back then).
>Also I like the Idea of more power adding more safety by gaining a safe
>altitude at a shorter time. A turn off for the 914 is the reduced TBO and a
>higher demand on maintenance. For the Prop: I don't know what would be more
>beneficial. A turbo and a fixed prop with the option to update easy to a CS
>or a 912ULS with the CS prop and no really update path on the engine side.
>
>Michael Grass
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
>
>
> >
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I tried to do the fwf package 'on the cheap' by shopping around
>elsewhere
> > for the engine. I came to the conclusion that by the time you add all
>the
> > bits and pieces you need there isn't much of a saving when compared to
>the
> > complete kit as I received it from Europa. It made for a very
> > straightforward installation, no extra parts needed, except for a few
>nuts
> > and bolts maybe. Why not upgrade to the cs prop at a later stage. Just
>make
> > sure that you have enough clearance between the propeller hub and the
> > cowling, and do the wiring and leave a hole for the control box on your
> > panel for a simple retrofit. If cost is important why the 914 ? I didn't
> > notice any mountains at all when I flew over Michigan.
> >
> > Karl
> >
> >
> > >From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
> > >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:35:57 -0500
> > >
><M.Grass@comcast.net>
> > >
> > >Group,
> > >
> > >I like to order the firewall forward kit from Europa2004 as soon as
> > >possible but I need to do an informed decision. My problem is: My heart
>is
> > >on the 914 engine with an CS Prop (Airmaster, Kremen, Arplast?) but I
>am
> > >not sure how much the total package will cost nor I will (and be able)
>buy
> > >the whole package at once. Therefore If I could get some input from the
> > >group members who where there before that would be great.
> > >
> > >My question related to the Rotax engines:
> > >
> > >What (factory) order options other then the 912ULS-4 or 914UL-4 are
>needed.
> > >The Rotax websites and the Lockwood catalog are rather confusing then
> > >helpful. I believe I need the ring mount, slipper clutch, regulator /
> > >rectifier, HD starter, expansion bottle but what type, expansion tank,
> > >vacuum pump drive (not the pump itself), bolts, prop. lugs, Lord blocks
> > >etc?? Again, reading the Rotax publications I do not know what is
>included
> > >and what needs to be ordered extra and what I really need for
>completing
>my
> > >Europa. I also believe that some options are standard on the 912 but
>not
> > >the 914 but in return the 914 includes some options which are not
>included
> > >in the 912 base package.
> > >
> > >My question regarding the Europa FWF kit is:
> > >
> > >What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change
>my
> > >mind (means I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912
> > >package and have left over's? I would hate to buy parts I do not need.
>If
> > >somebody has the packing list from both that would be great so I could
>see
> > >what I really would get from Europa.
> > >
> > >The last of the set of questions:
> > >I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
>any
> > >Europas flying with them yet and if yes how is the performance?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >Michael Grass
> > >
> > >A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
> > >Building halted at 0 deg F. outside at ground level and to much time to
> > >dream.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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