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Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
From: Michael Grass <M.Grass@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 21:23:40

Karl,

I appreciate your feedback.

I would like to purchase the fwf package from Europa2004 direct but I was
advised by them that I would have to source the Engine and Prop by myself
because Rotax wants to keep it with their local distributor for warranty
claims etc. and second it would be cheaper anyway (The Euro and the Pound
gained more then 30% last year). They also advised me to contact Airmaster
direct as well.
I am actually a firm believer that we all should source as much as possible
to bring Europa back on its feet which in return would warrant the factory
support in the long time and therefore also secure our investment but in
this case I do not seem to have this option or at least it does not seam
feasible.
You are absolutely right with the mountainous or better the lag of
mountainous landscape in Michigan but I decided on the Europa as a touring
machine and in terms of the 912ULS the high compression is rather a turn off
for me. The high compression has a higher demand on fuel quality and even
the highest available fuel grade here in Michigan is just marginal. The
higher compression means detonations are more likely (OK the turbo boost
reverses somehow  this argument but you still could throttle back then).
Also I like the Idea of more power adding more safety by gaining a safe
altitude at a shorter time. A turn off for the 914 is the reduced TBO and a
higher demand on maintenance. For the Prop: I don't know what would be more
beneficial. A turbo and a fixed prop with the option to update easy to a CS
or a 912ULS with the CS prop and no really update path on the engine side.

Michael Grass

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "KARL HEINDL" <kheindl@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options


>
>
> Michael,
>
> I tried to do the fwf package 'on the cheap' by shopping around elsewhere
> for the engine. I came to the conclusion that by the time you add all the
> bits and pieces you need there isn't much of a saving when compared to the
> complete kit as I received it from Europa. It made for a very
> straightforward installation, no extra parts needed, except for a few nuts
> and bolts maybe. Why not upgrade  to the cs prop at a later stage. Just
make
> sure that you have enough clearance between the propeller hub and the
> cowling, and do the wiring and leave a hole for the control box on your
> panel for a simple retrofit. If cost is important why the 914 ? I didn't
> notice any mountains at all when I flew over Michigan.
>
> Karl
>
>
> >From: "Michael Grass" <M.Grass@comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Europa-List: Firewall chice and Rotax Engine order options
> >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2004 19:35:57 -0500
> >
> >
> >Group,
> >
> >I like to order the firewall forward kit from Europa2004 as soon as
> >possible but I need to do an informed decision. My problem is: My heart
is
> >on the 914 engine with an CS Prop (Airmaster, Kremen, Arplast?) but I am
> >not sure how much the total package will cost nor I will (and be able)
buy
> >the whole package at once. Therefore If I could get some input from the
> >group members who where there before that would be great.
> >
> >My question related to the Rotax engines:
> >
> >What (factory) order options other then the 912ULS-4 or 914UL-4 are
needed.
> >The Rotax websites and the Lockwood catalog are rather confusing then
> >helpful. I believe I need the ring mount, slipper clutch, regulator /
> >rectifier, HD starter, expansion bottle but what type, expansion tank,
> >vacuum pump drive (not the pump itself), bolts, prop. lugs, Lord blocks
> >etc?? Again, reading the Rotax publications I do not know what is
included
> >and what needs to be ordered extra and what I really need for completing
my
> >Europa. I also believe that some options are standard on the 912 but not
> >the 914 but in return the 914 includes some options which are not
included
> >in the 912 base package.
> >
> >My question regarding the Europa FWF kit is:
> >
> >What makes more sense: To get first the 914 kit and then, if I change my
> >mind (means I cant afford the 914) upgrade to the 912? Or get the 912
> >package and have left over's?  I would hate to buy parts I do not need.
If
> >somebody has the packing list from both that would be great so I could
see
> >what I really would get from Europa.
> >
> >The last of the set of questions:
> >I know some of you where interested about the Kremen CS Prop. Are there
any
> >Europas flying with them yet and if yes how is the performance?
> >
> >  Thanks
> >
> >Michael Grass
> >
> >A266 Trigear, Detroit MI,
> >Building halted at 0 deg F. outside at ground level and to much time to
> >dream.
> >
> >
>
>




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