I also cdnsidered an RV. I choose the Europa for several reasons.
The entire fire wall forward kit is less than a lyc.
It burns less fuel
I can put it on trailer and bring it home, this saves $500/mo in my area
I couldn't see myself driving all those rivets.
I can add sail plane wings later if I wish.
No jigs required, the RV might, but not sure.
Almost everything can be done alone.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: RV vs. Europa
<jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
>
> Rob covers it all really - I, too, considered the RV on my list, among
> others, and chose the Europa. One other factor against the RV for me was
> that I felt that it was just homebuilding the same sort of plane as I
hired
> at the time - PA28, etc. If I wanted a 'tin' plane with a thirsty engine
> designed before the Mk 1 Ford Cortina, I'd have bought a second-hand
> Warrior. I'm not saying tin is wrong, it just wasn't right for me.
>
> As for the composite work, I want to reiterate the noise (or lack of!)
> issue. Also, I really enjoy working with the composites. I got huge
pleasure
> from doing the best job I could with the tail kit even though I started
with
> no experience.
>
> Enjoy your choosing. Enjoy building your choice more. Enjoy flying it
most!
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
>
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings awaiting mods and closing
> CM ready for installation in fuse (with airbrakes fittings), but holding
off
> while I do a load of small jobs first
> 1100 build hours to date
>
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Housman
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: RV vs. Europa
>
>
> I, too, considered building an RV but elected to build a Europa instead
for
> several reasons, the two primary reasons being 1) it is NOT made of
> aluminum, and 2) it is far more efficient. Having begun my engineering
> career in the aluminum industry as a process engineer I know a few things
> about the properties of aluminum, and having rented numerous aluminum
> airplanes I've seen entirely too much corrosion (and this is in the
> relatively benign southern California climate) to make me comfortable
owning
> a large expensive piece of aluminum that really wants to revert to
aluminum
> oxide. Toss in the much more efficient design of the Europa and the
> decision, for me at least, was a no-brainer.
>
> In my (not so) humble opinion, aluminum for aircraft will soon go the way
of
> wood for small boats, in each case being supplanted by composites, because
> of the superior properties of composites. Even Boeing's next generation
> will be mostly "plastic."
>
> Another consideration for those of us building at home in residential
areas
> is noise. Were I to attempt to rivet in my garage I would soon have both
> the homeowners association and the local police paying me a visit (and not
> to admire my project either).
>
> All foam is hot-wire cut and delivered ready to cover with epoxy-glass
with
> minimal preparation, so very little foam shaping is required, and what
> little there is can be avoided by choosing the factory's "accelerated"
> options.
>
> Before you make your decision check out these sites: Tony Krzyzewski's
> "build log" at http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa/index.html and the CAFE
> Foundation's report on the Europa at
> http://www.sonic.net/cafeweb/aprs/Europa%20APR.pdf for an unbiased
analysis
> of the aircraft's performance. The factory's web site
> (http://www.europa-aircraft.com/) has links to many other useful sites.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
> Europa XS Tri-Gear A070
> Airframe complete
> Irvine, CA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Guil Barros
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: RV vs. Europa
>
>
> Let me start off by saying that im not trying to start a flame war :)
>
> Im genuinly interested in hearing peoples thoughts on the subject, up
untill
> i
> found out about europa kits a few days ago i was set on getting an RV-7A.
Im
> not so sure anymore.
>
> Can someone tell me a little about whats involved in building an Europa? i
> can
> understand rivetting aluminum, but have never had any experience with
> composite
> materials. Will i have to shape foam to make parts? wings, etc?
>
> Also, it seems that there are thousands of people with RV's, and i hadnt
> heard
> of the europa till just a few days ago. Whats the community like? Is there
> anyone in arkansas who might want to give me a demo ride in one?
>
> Im really interested in the europa, i love the idea of using a smaller,
more
> modern engine (lycomings make me cringe), the fantastic fuel consumption,
> the
> aestetics, etc... i guess im really comfortable with the idea of aluminum
> still
> though.
>
> One other thing: i noticed that the prop-ground clearance on the monowheel
> is
> rather small, what are peoples thoughts on this? are there many
> prop-strikes?
>
> Right now im thinking i like the monowheel XL the most, but i need to see
> how
> comfortable i would be with the taildragging, clearance :)
>
> thanks for any input you feel like giving :)
>
> -guil
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