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Re: Europa-List: Spar guide placement

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar guide placement
From: KARL HEINDL <kheindl@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:35:30

Hi Bob,

What exactly do you mean by 'ramps'? Are you referring to the socket on the 
starboard side
itself. It has a sort of lip top and bottom.

Also, how do you get the flaps to connect to the flap pins when solo rigging 
?

Cheers,  Karl


>From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@ukonline.co.uk>
>Reply-To: europa-list@matronics.com
>To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spar guide placement
>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 07:31:32 -0000
>
>
>Hi! Ferg.
>Perhaps you haven't understood my plan of solving the problem of single
>person rigging of the port wing?
>If you take the socket that the port spa engages in you will notice that it
>has two small ramps which guide the spa finally into the socket. It is 
>these
>ramps that aren't extended enough to catch the approaching spa that causes
>the delay in the spa finding the socket centre OR NEEDS AN ASSISTANT TO
>VISUALLY GUIDE THE PERSON PUSHING THE WING TIP HOME THERBY CAUSING THE 
>DELAY
>YOU MENTION.  Extend the ramps about 3" then the spa has to follow them
>either DOWN or UP into the socket . The only direction not controlled is 
>the
>fore and aft position of the spa end but with a suitable LEDGED tuffnel 
>wear
>strip for the spa to slide over on the port side access the guy pushing can
>hold the wing tip aft (keeps the spa tip forward) and bingo problem of it
>"FINDING " the socket is solved.
>The socket isn't structural, only a rigging aid, but you are only 
>increasing
>it's structural contribution (and unfortunately a little weight!) but with
>the extension ramps being reduxed to the seat back bulkhead it is better
>held from cracking away (As mine did...... then try rigging on your own and
>go fly over the Alps like we did!)
>On the pip pin question the procedure for fitting the port pip pin (1/2"
>diameter with the 1370 lb mod) is to pull the pin tight against the
>starboard spa with the balls engaged, measure the gap between the handle 
>and
>seat back and suitably pack it out to "soak" up the loose length. (It was 
>my
>choice to use an identical pip pin on both sides of the a/c on the basis of
>"whats good for the goose is good for the gander"  besides it looks more
>professional than a welded allen key into a cap bolt!)
>Obviously a threaded bolt with a self locking nut would be better than "the
>balls" but can you devise a way of getting your hand in to fit the nut? But
>also the "mickey mouse" welded allen key doesn't even have "the balls" to
>restrain the spa from lateral movement. only the "cuff" mid span is
>providing such restraint.
>Hope you now feel happier about MY safety!!!!!?
>Regards
>Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
>To: "EUROPALIST" <europa-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Europa-List: Spar guide placement
>
>
> >
> > This is only me speaking - Andy or neville may wish to comment.
> >
> > I was at the Europa tent the last two OSHes, and watched or took part in
> > several wing attachment parties. The speed and accuracy of the crew was
> > great to watch, but on occasion there was hesitation or difficulty and
>they
> > solved all by adjusting the angle of the spar.
> > It occurred to me that there is change in the dimensions from time to
> > ime  - seasonal, humidity, temperature, whatever. I think it would be
>unwise
> > to set spar guides too critically that when some flexibility is required
>at
> > a later date, it is not available.
> > That is  -  I plan to leave some motion available, and will hew to the
> > manual specifically regarding pip pins. I am not sure I would rely on 
>both
> > pins sited only by two retractable ball bearings.
> > Happy landings
> > Ferg
> > A064 classic mono
> >
> >
>
>

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