or as a famous american europa builder said to me " WHAT MANUAL?"-and he
has built more europas than just about anyone---- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Davey" <jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib
<jeremycrdavey@btinternet.com>
>
> Mike,
>
> I couldn't agree more. At the risk of offending some, I have to say I've
> only made errors when I've not read the manual fully. Admittedly there
have
> been times that with hindsight I'd have reworded the manual, but also it
> could be argued that I had been pressing on when wiser counsel would have
> suggested taking a break.
>
> And when I was a Royal Engineer it was RTFM - M being Manual :-). Anyone
for
> 'dems'?
>
> Cheers,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
>
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Parkin
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib
>
> <Mikenjulie.Parkin@btopenworld.com>
>
> Guys,
>
> Perhaps it is not the 'factory' failing to react to the suggested change
in
> peel-ply colour, but more a problem of lead time. It may be that those
> people currently having problems with the invisible peel-ply just bought
> their wing kits about the same time. When the problem works itself
through
> the system it may be that all wings come with the highly visible green
> peel-ply.
>
> For those of us that built our wings the hard way, the original wing kit
> came with blue peel-ply - lots of it!! Later on, I found that I needed
some
> more and I bought several rolls from Aircraft Spruce, the peel-ply that
> came from AS was indeed white and transparent when applied and had no red
> stripe at all. However, in my opinion, the white AS peel-ply was streets
> better than the original Europa supplied blue stuff. The green P-P is
fine
> but I still prefer the Aircraft Spruce P-P. The green is of slightly
> lighter grade and does not produce such a good job if used with any folds
> still in it - it needs to ironed for best results I understand.
>
> The components of the kit are not actually made at the Europa Factory -
> unless there is a secret underground skunk works in existence. As I
> understand it, the major glass fibre components are sub-contracted out to
a
> professional aircraft manufacturer. Maybe they will get round to green
> peel-ply eventually - maybe not.
>
> I think it is a little unfair to be so quick to criticise the factory -
when
> lead times for these major components are probably quite long. I think
that
> the guys at Europa react very quickly and appropriately when the need
arises
> and they are always actively engaged in improving the product whether the
> aircraft is flying or still under construction.
>
> I must agree with Jos - if the instructions say 'remove the peel-ply' and
> you don't, they the fault lies much closer than Kirbymoorside.
>
> As a young pilot, we where always told by our instructor to "RTFQ",
meaning
> 'Read The F****** Question'. Perhaps this is a case of "RTFI" - meaning
> 'Read the Instructions'.
>
> regards,
>
> Mike
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <DuaneFamly@aol.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Peel Ply on Root Rib
>
>
> >
> > Jos,
> >
> > I agree with you wholeheartedly. My question is WHY use peel ply that is
> > invisible when a "very noticeable" colored peel ply is available? This
> would aid a
> > builder, many of which have never done this before, in completing his
> > aircraft with fewer "OOPS".
> >
> > Mike Duane A207
> > Redding, California
> > XS Conventional Gear
> >
> >
>
>
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