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Subject: Process thee, and not an additive be, for the quickening of my revs are
From: Nic <tgynz@cts.com>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:51:21
Way to go Bob-

Duudes -
Nice response
Keepitup

Slick 50 (TM) - FAA approved - means only that it does no harm -
   rem Please, no stories of commercials and "it was sorta like it" stuff.
100 rpm is not subjective

1 hr of aggressive road/air/water/sub-orbital time processes the surfaces
and yer done.
And you can take what's left and change it out.
.005 inch (maybe) thick layer of yummy resin applied to every (speculation)
working surface = job done (not speculation).
Good to go. (25,000 miles maybe)

Some current info:

http://www.dupont.com/teflon/fluoroadditives/applications/lubricants.html
Zonyl fluoroadditive powders are ideal solid lubricants because they have
smaller coefficients of static and dynamic friction than any other solid
material. Chemically inert and useful from cryogenic to high temperatures,
they are added to existing lubricating systems to extend their performance
range. Used alone, they can reduce wear and provide longer life for bearing
surfaces. Zonyl fluoroadditive powders are excellent lubricant additives
for conditions where conventional additives, such as graphite or molybdenum
disulfide are unsuitable.
Zonyl fluoroadditives are sometimes used in formulations made for addition
to the lubricating oil in internal combustion engines or other machinery
using high performance oil. The chemical and thermal stability of PTFE
particles is important to this use.

...me ... per Freds note
Du Pont lawyers relieved themselves of any future caseload with "
 "In a statement issued about ten years ago, DuPont's Fluoropolymers
Division Product Specialist, J.F.
Imbalzano said, "Teflon is not useful as an ingredient in oil additives or
oils used for internal combustion engines."

Now the down side
http://www.miata.net/garage/slickftc2.html
QUAKER STATE SUBSIDIARIES SETTLE FTC CHARGES AGAINST SLICK 50
Agreement Safeguards $10 Million in Redress to Consumers

No longer claim
--"Every time you cold start your car without Slick 50 protection, metal
grinds against metal in your engine";
...me excuse ... Oil will remain on your internal surfaces. (for a few days)

--"With each turn of the ignition you do unseen damage, because at cold
start-up most of the oil is down in the pan. But Slick 50's unique chemistry
bonds to engine parts. It reduces wear up to 50% for 50,000 miles";
me excuse ... Most, not all oil is in the pan. Yes it bonds. Yes it can
help. Some

--"What makes Slick 50 Automotive Engine Formula different is an advanced
chemical support package designed to bond a specially activated PTFE to the
metal in your engine."
...me excuse ... Burnished like a 12th century polishing wheel, not
specially activated.

The FTC complaint also charged that Slick 50 lacked substantiation for
advertising claims that, compared to motor oil alone, the product:
--reduces engine wear;
...my excuse ... Doesn't have too. I think it does anyways. I don't think it
cracks BMW heads.

--reduces engine wear by more than 50%;
...my excuse ... Maybe not that much.

--reduces engine wear by up to 50%;
...my excuse ... probably not. Serious material displacement in bearings,
aka. loose bearing tolerances, will only accelerate with use. The beating
goes on. Rings and hyd cams, however, should remain as when processed.

--reduces engine wear at start-up;
...my excuse ... I think so. Cranks like the plugs are out. High idle.

--extends the duration of engine life;
...my excuse ... Not if your bearings are loose. The beat goes on. (Sonny &
Cher, 1972)

--lowers engine temperatures;
...my excuse ... Not if you have a thermostat.

--reduces toxic emissions;
...my excuse ... Smog? Doubt it. Except for trivial reductions in throttle
setting.

--increases gas mileage;
...my excuse ... Maybe. I think so.

--increases horsepower.
...my excuse ... Only some internal running friction recovery.

Back to the article:
In addition, the complaint alleged that the company did not have adequate
substantiation for its advertising claims that one treatment of Slick 50
continues to reduce wear for 50,000 miles and that it has been used in a
significant number of U.S. Government vehicles.

Finally, the complaint challenged ads stating that "tests prove" the engine
wear reduction claims make by Slick 50. In fact, according to the FTC
complaint, tests do not prove that Slick 50 reduces engine wear at start up,
or by 50%, or that one treatment reduces engine wear for 50,000 miles. The
agreement to settle the FTC charges bars any claims that:

--engines lack protection from wear at start-up unless they have been
treated with Slick 50 or a similar PTFE product;
...my excuse ... A little bit of oil everywhere, even overnight.

--engines commonly experience premature failure caused by wear unless they
are treated with Slick 50 or a similar PTFE product; or,
...my excuse ... No excuse. Really dumb statement.

--Slick 50 or a similar PTFE product coats engine parts with a layer of
PTFE.
...my excuse ... Only coats running surfaces w/ a layer of Teflon(TM).
Process.

(FTC File No. D09280) (slick)

...me...
Long ago, when I was young and ignant, I tried some (~ 2 oz) in my
motorcycle, Honda XL 500 (TM).
Soon after that (one minute and five seconds), the clutch was all "shiny".
(completely unresponsive)
It cranked (electric start) over great, regardless of gear selection.
(clutch out)
After an oil change (it really took two) and many clutch plate baths in MEK,
I could once again use it.

What needs doin' is running a two-stroke with it.
Then maybe running the same two-stroke w/o any oil.
Might pass EPA, DOT, PFA, IBM, WMF, LBJ, JFK, Bid and the water department
scrutiny. Hahahahahah

Before octane as we know it is not for sale (al)
Or the industry will evolve into a perfect source (george)
upallnight
Nic-



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