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Subject: Re: Europa-List: does rotax need egt?
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:55:15
Well put Graham.
It is a diagnostic tool of which you have no control over from the 
cockpit...


Bud Yerly
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Graham Singleton<mailto:grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, November 12, 2009 4:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: does rotax need egt?


<grahamsingleton@btinternet.com<mailto:grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>>

  Remi Guerner wrote:
  > Hi Rowland and all,
  >  
  > In my opinion, EGT indication on any Rotax engine is useless. EGT 
  > indication is extremely sensitive to the position of the probe 
inside 
  > the exhaust stack. This is one of the reasons why, on any piston 
  > engine, the EGT indication in itself cannot be used to determine 
  > whether a cylinder is running too lean or too rich. The highest EGT 
  > cylinder is not necessarily the leanest. The only way to determine 
the 
  > mixture condition is to pull the mixture control progressively and 
  > monitor the EGT on all cylinders. The leanest cylinder is the one 
  > which will reach peak EGT first. Of course you cannot do that on a 
  > Rotax as there is no mixture control. The only thing EGT can do on a 

  > Rotax, in case of a big engine problem, is to help diagnose which 
  > cylinder is the culprit.       
  > Additional comments:
  > With the Europa XS cowling,  the EGT probes on cylinders 1 and 2 are 

  > cooled by direct ram air from the round intakes and this has proved 
to 
  > affect their indication.
  > The Rotax Flydat has 4 EGT channels but shows EGT on two cylinders 
at 
  > a time and switches automatically back and forth. That makes EGT 
very 
  > uneasy to read. Any other engine monitor on the market is certainly 
  > better. 
  > My plane was fitted with a 914 with Flydat and 4 EGTs when I bought 
  > it. When I replaced the engine with the 912S five years ago, I kept 
  > the Flydat but did not install EGT probes and it works for me.
  > Regards
  >  
  > Remi Guerner
  > F-PGKL
  >
  Remi
  We had a Classic with a Grand Rapids EIS and 4 EGTs. I soon noticed 
that 
  EGT varies in an unusual way with throttle setting. The mixture is 
  affected by throttle position because of the effect of momentum on the 

  fuel droplets, which tend to go to the front cylinders at WOT and the 
  rear at part throttle.
  One thing is apparent, the very high EGTs the Rotax has in normal 
  operation. This means the exhaust system is under considerable thermal 

  stress.
  I tend to the feeling that EGT is worth having for diagnostic reasons 
  but difficult to understand on the Rotax.
  Graham


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