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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rotax 914 starting problems when hot
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:44:29

Great Frans

"I advanced the
throttle to 100% (not 115%) and got over 155 knots 
IAS worth out of it
on my freshly calibrated ASI,"

Congratulations for that; next upgrade your very 
speedy cannon to Mono and meet even VNE (165 
knots) during the low level flight.

"broke my smallest toe by bumping into
my wife unintentionally (honestly!)"

I recommend you to try next time your biggest tool 
intentionally instead of a smallest toe 
unintentionally.

Raimo

do archive


-----Alkuperinen viesti----- 
From: Frans Veldman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 10:01 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Rotax 914 starting problems 
when hot

<frans@privatepilots.nl>

Hi everyone,

I guess I'm not the only one having this problem. 
The main problem here
is that I don't understand why it is happening.

If I arrive at an airfield in hot weather, I can 
restart either right
away, or after a considerable time. If I just 
refuel without having a
meal, I get into a time window where the engine 
has difficulties starting.

It is a vapour lock problem of some sort, but I 
don't know how this can
happen. Sure, the inside of the cowling is hot and 
residual heat from
the turbo is, without the large fan upfront 
turning, cooking the fuel.
But I thought that the 914 is supposed to be 
immune from the problem.

Up to the pressure regulator the fuel is recycling 
when I switch on the
electric fuel pump. Any vapour up to the pressure 
regulator is directed
back into the tank and being replaced by fresh and 
cold fuel.

The carb bowls might have been cooked empty, but 
then the floats will
have dropped and fresh fuel will pour in as soon 
as I switch on the
pumps. The fuel line between the pressur regulator 
is not recycled but
if it contains vapour then it will escape via the 
opened carb needle and
not raise the floats, so it will gently escape 
until being replaced by
liquid fuel, being driven there by the electric 
pumps.

So... why won't then darn thing just start?

Yesterday I was exactly experiencing this problem. 
After arriving at an
airport to go to the service center for the 
bi-annual pitot and static
systems test, and with the engine switched off for 
about ten minutes I
couldn't restart it. No matter how long I kept the 
fuel pumps running,
applied choke, (just in case the mixture was too 
lean) or was just
cranking with the throtthle wide open to vent the 
cylinders (in case it
was too rich), the engine would just crank without 
even a faint single hit.
So I abandoned the plan to taxi to the refueling 
station, and had a
lunch instead. Of course after that the engine 
started up right after
just a half turn of the prop...

So... why is this happening? I'm interested in 
solving this problem, but
primarily I want to know why this is happening 
because according to my
reasoning it shouldn't be happening in the first 
place. What am I
missing here?

Oh BTW, on the return home I got caught by non 
predicted early set in of
night fog, with a very rapidly dropping cloud base 
(never seen it
falling that fast). With my home base being the 
closest and most
promising airfield once I got forced down to 500 
feet I advanced the
throttle to 100% (not 115%) and got over 155 knots 
IAS worth out of it
on my freshly calibrated ASI, which was quite an 
experience so low over
the ground. At my homefield I arrived less than 15 
minutes later with
the local cloud base still at 1000 feet (as 
announced/predicted by ATC
half an hour earlier), but I was thankful 
nevertheless to have been able
to speed out of that threathening situation that 
fast. If it weren't for
the obligatory static/pitot test to renew my 
airworthiness review
certificate I wouldn't have been flying at all 
that day, so much for the
bureaucrats that want to enforce my safety this 
way. Anyway, the
pitot/static systems worked flawless (I would have 
had noticed it myself
it if they weren't) and I'm good to apply for 
renewal of the desired
certificate.
All this while I had unwittingly broke my smallest 
toe by bumping into
my wife unintentionally (honestly!) and was 
undergoing this flying
experience with some discomfort to enhance the 
flying experience even
further. At least the latter problem has been 
diagnosed correctly today,
so now I just want to get diagnosed the vapour 
lock problem as well. Who
can shine some light on this mystery?

Frans


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