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Re: Europa-List: Re: Is 160F too cold.

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Is 160F too cold.
From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 12:59:44

Curious what the hottest ambient youve flown in?
Cheers,
Pete
C-GNPZ

> On Jan 12, 2021, at 12:23 PM, crouton <crouton@well.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have a classic with an 80hp.  
> After several years of experimentation I have settled upon a cowl flap/exit 
> air
restrictor and, most important, a Laminova water-oil heat exchanger.
> The cowl flap keeps the coolant temperature under control (210-220F) and the
heat exchanger keeps the temps in lockstep in cruise.  In climb, the oil temp
stabilizes at 15-20degF over coolant temp.  (I attribute this to heat load in
the gearbox.)
> If you Choose the Laminova, get the largest of the 3 standard sizes.  It will
not overcool.  
> (I started with the smallest, moved to the medium and had to install a coolant
restrictor to force more coolant through the heat exchange section)  
> They are not returnable so go for the big one, its not a great deal lerger or
more expensive.
> In descent temps go to 170-180F.  Cowl flapp closed.
> It has been a lot of work, but I love my Laminova.  I am in Vermont currently,
with surface temperatures in the 20-25F range. (-5C)
> Warmup is a bit quicker, too.
> 
> Creighton. 96EG.  A009
> Sent from my iPad
> 
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>>    1. 08:53 AM - Re: Is 160 F too cold?  (Erich Trombley)
>>    2. 03:38 PM - Mono Slave Cyl O-ring  (Kingsley Hurst)
>>    3. 03:39 PM - Mono Slave Cyl O-ring  (Kingsley Hurst)
>>    4. 07:26 PM - Re: Re: Is 160 F too cold?  (William Daniell)
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>> ________________________________  Message 1  
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>> From: Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com>
>> Subject: Europa-List: RE:  Is 160 F too cold?
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>> Hi William,
>> 
>> As far as engine damage, I cant say.  However, it is outside the recommended
temperature
>> range specified by Rotax.   I had contemplated installing an oil thermostat
>> to solve the same issue, and decided to fabricate a cowl flap instead.
>> Works very well.  
>> 
>> I close it off completely for engine start and initial warm up.   I then 
>> either
>> open or close it to maintain CHT/oil temps in the specified range.  As a 
>> bonus
>> I pick a few knots in cruise, especially in the winter months when, I have it
>> almost completely closed.
>> 
>> In use a small electric actuator to move the flap.  I dont have the standard
Europa
>> firewall forward, so my installation is different.  However, Jim Butcher
>> fabricated a similar cowl flap for the Europa XS. He usually monitors the 
>> forum.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Erich
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>> From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
>> Subject: Europa-List: Mono Slave Cyl O-ring
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>> From: Kingsley Hurst <kingsnjan@westnet.com.au>
>> Subject: Europa-List: Mono Slave Cyl O-ring
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>> From: William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Is 160 F too cold?
>> 
>> Thanks everyone for the responses.  A lot to think of.  For now i have
>> ordered some high temp tape...while i consider my options.
>> Appreciate all the options offered
>> Will
>> 
>> William Daniell
>> +1 786 878 0246
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>> On Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 11:57 Erich Trombley <erichdtrombley@juno.com> wrote:
>> 
>> m
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi William,
>>> 
>>> As far as engine damage, I can=99t say.  However, it is outside the
>>> recommended temperature range specified by Rotax.   I had contemplated
>>> installing an oil thermostat to solve the same issue, and decided to
>>> fabricate a cowl flap instead.   Works very well.
>>> 
>>> I close it off completely for engine start and initial warm up.   I then
>>> either open or close it to maintain CHT/oil temps in the specified range.
>>> As a bonus I pick a few knots in cruise, especially in the winter months
>>> when, I have it almost completely closed.
>>> 
>>> In use a small electric actuator to move the flap.  I don=99t have 
>> the
>>> standard Europa firewall forward, so my installation is different.
>>> However, Jim Butcher fabricated a similar cowl flap for the Europa XS. He
>>> usually monitors the forum.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Erich
>>> 
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