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Subject: Re: Europa-List: fuel vent query
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:06:46
Rowland,
For the last 10 years I=99ve been putting the vent on the bottom.  
I use 1/4 inch OD tube (although others have gone with larger) and 
extended the tube below the fuselage some two inches minimum to be in 
clean air bent forward.  Typically on the Starboard side and use a break 
in the cobra neck.  Drill the two holes at the base of the tube as in 
the Europa top mounts should mud or grass get flung into the tip.  A 
clogged vent will starve the engine eventually as the vacuum of the fuel 
being used will be greater than the pumps capability to draw fuel...  

Find a convenient place in the trigear well or on a mono it can be 
behind the bulkhead or glued to the wood supports, being sure to clear 
the flaps.  I put it on the forward side of the bulkhead and glassed and 
floxed it in.  Just scuff the tube and install.  It is very rugged and 
light.  I made my tube from stainless.  It is a bit hard to drill, but 
very stiff and strong.  Use either rubber, tygon or polyurethane tubing 
with appropriate clamps.

On my website is how I plumb the unit which is similar to Grahams.  I 
don=99t use AN fittings as it is a vent system and not worth the 
fittings.
See photo attached and www.customflightcreations.com and hit the 
techniques tab.

Regards,
Bud Yerly


From: Rowland Carson 
Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 11:26 AM
Subject: Europa-List: fuel vent query

I=99m installing the type of fuel vent described by Graham 
Singleton and others, where the vent pipe goes up to a syphon break at 
the top of the F18 filler neck then down to reach atmospheric pressure 
underneath the fuselage. I=99m using 1/4=9D soft aluminium 
pipe with AN fittings. 

It=99s probably not very important, but I wondered if there was 
any conventional wisdom on the ideal shape for the bottom end of the 
vent pipe. I believe I=99ve seen vents that are chamfered like A & 
B in the diagram attached below, but am not sure if that would create an 
undesirable increase (A) or decrease (B) pressure in the vent pipe.

It seems desirable (to prevent accidental damage etc) that the vent 
should protrude as little as possible below the fuselage, so the 
diagrams show an exaggerated length for clarity. Instead of a straight 
cut pipe as at C, would there be any downside to terminating the pipe in 
an AN bulkhead fitting with the outer end cut off, to make it look 
rather like a large static port? This seems the most robust and elegant 
way to do it, but I=99m concerned that it may cause problems I 
hadn=99t thought of.

Anyone have any relevant experience or knowledge of the shapes of fuel 
vents?

in friendship

Rowland

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