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Re: Europa-List: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs

Subject: Re: Europa-List: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:37:15

Alan,

It is absolutely imperative you pay attention to the normal foam tailplane 
build instructions:

We have alerted Europa to these issues in general, but I am not tech support 
any longer for the factory and cannot give you a definitive answer to why 
this occurs other than it is not quite ready for a builder to assemble just 
yet without extensive knowledge of how the tabs and stab are built.

Yes the stabs go on the tube, but the stab to fuselage fitting and the TP 
inserts for the drive tab pin seating must be done with great care.
The flange (skin surface overhanging the root rib) must be trimmed to allow 
the TPs to fully seat in the root of the stab.  They will be proud a bit on 
one side, once the flange is trimmed to allow the pins to fully seat and the 
TPs to be in contact with the rib.  Then scuff the area and seat with Redux 
and make a nice transition to support the bush.

Next your trim tabs.

No amount of work will get things perfect on the tabs.  Always go steps 
ahead before proceeding to a cut line.  The MS 20001-3 hinge must fit the 
flange skin dead flat.  So both the tab and stab top skin flanges must be 
trimmed to allow the hinge to fit square and flat.

Should the tab be too long for the stab TE, you would have to cut the rebate 
in either the tab or stab, or lengthen the stab with a few layers of glass 
and some careful molding.

Note also that the hinge line skin bonds are so thick that a normal 1/16 to 
1 mm inch gap after paint will jamb the control as the hinge line is so far 
---From the upper skin due to the excessive thickness of the skins, so an 
angled surface must be made to allow proper UP movement of the tab.

The same problem exists with the ailerons.

I have shown the owner the problems first hand.  I will forward (when I have 
time) more issues with the NG control surfaces.

These are not insurmountable problems in fitting the surfaces, just not 
quite cut and bolt up and its done assembly (slot A tab B we all hope for).

Regards,
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations.
-----Original Message----- 
From: alan_hunter1664
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:20 PM
Subject: Europa-List: NG Tailplanes & Anti-Servo Trim Tabs

<alan_hunter1664@yahoo.co.uk>

I seem to be stumbling from one problem to another at the minute. Maybe it's 
me inexperience!

Whilst waiting for an answer on my Tailplane Torque tube issue I though I 
would complete the quick build Tailplanes. This is achieved by bonding the 
bottom skin and the tip using  araldite 420. This was completed with only 
minor problems along the way. However, fitting the Anti-servo trim tabs is 
another matter. I've not approached Europa with this yet as I wanted to see 
if anyone else had overcome the problem. The anti-servo tab now comes 
pre-built but this is not reflected in the manual. The issue is that if I 
align the trailing edge of the trim tab with that of the tailplane there is 
insufficient trailing edge at the root to attach the trim tab to and there 
would be restricted movement of the trim tab. there are 'trim lines' on the 
tailplane training edge and trim tab upper leading edge however trimming 
them to these lines would make the anti-servo tab extend proud of the 
tailplane trailing edge, is this normal? I've attached some photos which I 
hope highlight the issue. !
Any ideas?


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