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Re: Europa-List: torque tube

Subject: Re: Europa-List: torque tube
From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 17:14:13
Yes Karl,
Thank god for clecos is all I can say. I hold the top on with maybe 30, but I
 can go from top on to top off, or visa versa in about 5 minutes. I do that.

TR

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> On 6 Dec 2014, at 4:35 pm, Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Tony,
> 
> You are probably right about the rats.
> But to avoid a twisted fuselage, why not cleco the top in place whenever a
lignment is important. I didn't bond on the top until almost everything was f
inished. That included wings, tailplanes with balance weight, wall and roof l
ining, all electrics etc.
> Karl
> 
> From: tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: torque tube
> Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 16:11:52 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> 
> My lower fuse is in a jig, and I can twist it slightly to get the torque t
ube perfect, BUT, I have no clue it will stay there when the top goes on. It
 hopefully should, but what happens if it doesn't? Does it matter if the tai
l plane isn't exactly parallel to the wings? I'll go out here on a limb and s
ay it doesn't matter a rats. The difference in a 1 degree displacement, whic
h I would consider a big error, or dare I say variance, would present a negl
igible difference to the relative wind, and in terms of creating an asymmetr
ic lift or displacement vector, that was noticeable, I just can't see it. I'
d go so far as to say you could build in an error that was large enough to b
e visible when standing 10' in front of the spinner, a tail plane error of l
et's say 5 degrees, and it would make bugger all difference. It might even i
mprove single pilot flying with asymmetric weight distribution. 
> Same with the wings. They were set, weren't they, when the module went in.
 I reckon chasing our tails for perfection is going to only address the glar
ing anomalies, but if your cockpit module was installed half correctly, as m
y kids would say, "just chill".
> Regards
> Tony Renshaw
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On 6 Dec 2014, at 8:55 am, Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Vic,
> 
> Seems to me that the tailplanes should line up with the wings, i.e. spar b
ushes.
> Ignore the other readings.
> Karl
> 
> > Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:53:52 +0000
> > From: pete@lawless.info
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: torque tube
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Vic
> > 
> > The seats are part of the cockpit module glued into place as part of the

> > build. Very probable that it was fitted at a slight angle to the 
> > fuselage. Should stick with the wing spar as they agree with the top of 

> > the foot well, which is all pre moulded.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Pete
> > 
> > On 06/12/14 14:32, fraser221 wrote:
>
> > >
> > > i am working on restoring a classic mono to flying condition and in th
e process of changing the tp11 bushes for the torque tube.
> > >
> > > i have checked the levels at 3 different points, the wing spar bushes,
 top of footwell forward of the firewall and on top of the seat module behin
d the headrests (on uncarpeted surface).
> > >
> > > i get a similar reading between the spar bushes and the footwell tops b
ut quite different on the seat module.
> > >
> > > is this a problem or am i right in thinking that the spar bushes shoul
d be the one to use?
> > >
> > > hope someone out there can assist.
> > >
> > > Vic
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Read this topic online here:
> > >
> > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435414#435414
> > >
> > >
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