-Its not often I feel the need to voice my views or opinions, but followi
ng this debate / tirade / witch hunt I think its now about time we closed i
t off and returned to list normality...=0A=0AJust to put a few things strai
ght this the matronics list is an invaluable source of knowledge, diversity
, friendship and camaraderie. These type of lists have been around for a lo
ng time, longer of course than the current batch of social networking (FB e
tc) however I well remember the reticence associated with these lists at th
e time.=0A=0AFacebook and Twitter are quite simply the current holders of t
he trend and human need for communication, these are certain to loose this
position of current favourites-as and when something new comes along, its
happened many times in History, Photography that was alleged to steal the
sole, Radio, Television and indeed even our own beloved Aviation have all h
ad the same views expressed as I see being levelled at social Networking, i
t would appear that Ludditeism is indeed still alive!=0A=0ATo clarify a cou
ple of issues (understandable as the protagonists clearly have no experienc
e of the medium), Facebook and twitter is self regulating and very simple,
if you post information, Photographs, Videos or opinions it is only viewed
by the people that you give permission to view them PLEASE READ THAT AGAIN,
this facility is not available through this valuable and irreplaceable for
um. The current crop of social medias are populated by a different set of m
inds (probably somewhat younger both physically-and minded) these people
probably have a similar view about our Matronics forum as some on here have
about theirs. There is of course a crossover where both are used by some i
ncluding myself.=0A=0AIts a very na=EFve attitude to take the view keep our
hobby and beautiful aircraft to ourselves and a secret (a secret handshake
for Europa owners, now there is a most interesting thought), without- fu
ture owners, fettlers, builders our treasures will end up-in barns, locku
ps etc. in very sorry states probably never to fly again, "is that where we
want our labours to end up?" We really do need the future owners, if for n
o other reason we need these pilots to fly ourselves when we loose our medi
cals for age or health reasons, we could of course take the Egyptians view
and be buried with the aircraft for use in the great atmosphere above? I wo
nt be doing this as I hope to be presented with a new set of wings on arriv
al. Ironically some of the responders comments confuse me as whilst trying
to keep the aircraft exclusive, make a point about visiting, travelling to
many parts and meets all over Europe and the world, hardly keeping the Euro
pa a secret is
it?-I would ask the question again do we really want to keep our pleasur
e and passion a secret?=0A=0ACertainly not in my own case and I suspect in
most of our cases, we therefor need to take and exploit all of the opportun
ities to show off our Aircraft, promote the Europa Aircraft and our communi
ty, I for one take great pleasure in sharing my life experiences, flights,
pictures and videos with my invited friends, its pretty much the same as wh
at happens on here but a little more modern, in fact its the same as me pic
king up the phone and speaking to my friends which I still do actually do.
=0A=0ASo lets end the venom-ocity and silliness here and now "Long Live Mat
ronics and Long Live Facebook too" a place in all of our worlds for all of
us........=0A=0AThe other one=0ADavid J Joyce=0ASent to you-by David Joyc
e=0Awww.eastmidsspas.com- =0A-=0APLEASE NOTE WE HAVE MOVED AND ARE NOW
AT=0AThe Zycomm Building 51 Nottingham Road Ripley Derbys DE5 3AS=0A160 Met
ers from Sainsbury's Island=0A-=0ASame Phone 0800 4102122 and Direct Mobi
le 07973 675755=0A-=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Fr
ans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASen
t: Monday, 19 May 2014, 19:18=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Facebook/Twitter
ilots.nl>=0A=0A-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----=0AHash: SHA1=0A=0AOn 05/1
9/2014 04:44 PM, duanefamly@aol.com wrote:=0A=0A> On FB/Twitter, our world
could attract those that could develop a=0A> passion for building or flying
Europas.=0A=0AWhy would we want that? Has flying an Europa became a religi
on and do=0Awe need to spread the word and try to draw more soals into it?
=0AI don't care whether our current fleet would be expanded or remains=0Ast
able. No need for growth here. In fact, I think that many of us=0Awanted to
build an Europa to do something special, not because one=0Afelt the urge t
o follow the herd.=0AAnd to me it looks like facebook and twitter are mainl
y herd things. I=0Aalways get the feeling that it is sort of a compensation
for people=0Awho are not able to live an interesting live themselves. Maki
ng a=0Apicture of their dinner and letting the world know that they are goi
ng=0Ato eat it. That kind of stuf.=0A=0AOh and BTW, all of us were apparent
ly able to find this little=0Acommunity without the "help" of facebook or t
witter. We don't need it=0Afor that. In fact, I would suggest that anyone w
ho is unable to find=0Athis without the help of facebook or twitter doesn't
deserve it. ;-)=0A=0A> Everything that goes on FB/Twitter gets gleaned by
so many=0A> information gatherers it would make your head spin.=0A=0AAnd th
at is a good reason against it. I want to share my information=0Awith peopl
e I know, and not share it with thousands of friends of=0Afriends of friend
s... If I wanted to broadcast everything to the=0Aentire world I would easi
ly find opportunities to do so, still without=0Athe help of facebook or twi
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