Hi All
For the LAA it's only the radio that needs to be accepted prior to the 17
November.
So if you are flight testing a new build in the UK get the radio test done
and submit the paperwork for the radio to the LAA prior to the 17th.
Regards
Pete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Joyce
Sent: 06 November 2013 15:00
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Intercom Do you need one
Roland, I have no doubt you are aware of it, but for the
sake of others still doing their thinking it will not be
possible in the EU from 17/11/13 to get a new plane
accepted without an 8.33 radio. Regards, David Joyce,
G-XSDJ
Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> wrote:
><rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
>
> On 6 Nov 2013, at 13:24, Remi Guerner wrote:
>
>> Now I am thinking at the possible architecture of my
>>future 8.33 installation. It is very tempting to withdraw
>>the intercom, therefore saving panel space and making the
>>wiring simpler, but I see one big drawback: controlling
>>the intercom function would be a lot more complicated
>
>> BTW switching from the 25 to the 8.33 kHz modes with
>>those new Garmin radios is also a configuration task
>
> Remi - my comments, for what they are worth!
>
> I have just decided, based on recent comments in this
>forum, to delete the intercom from my panel (which is not
>yet built, but exists as many drawing and wiring
>diagrams, plus loose parts). I was originally planning to
>install a 25kHz mode radio as I'd picked up one at a good
>price. However, the length of time it's taken me to build
>the aircraft means that I'll probably need a 8.3kHz radio
>shortly after it's finished, so I decided to get one
>anyway and sell the other one.
>
> So, I've got a Funkwerk ATR833 now.
>
> I made comparisons of the intercom capabilities between
>the PS Engineering PM 1000 II (also a second-hand
>bargain) and the internal one in the ATR833 and found
>there was little to choose. The radio squelch is not
>directly accessible but is quite easy - pressing one
>button changes the volume knob to act as squelch, and it
>flips back to volume control after 10s inactivity.
>Intercom VOX setting is reached by pressing the same
>button 3 times, but my experience with many hired
>aircraft is that I very seldom need to adjust either the
>radio squelch or the intercom VOX, once set up. There is
>a single VOX control for both P1 & P2, but separate mic
>gain settings are available which could be useful if
>headsets do not match.
>
> I looked at the ergonomics of several 8.33kHz radios and
>found that the ATR833 was the only one in my price
>bracket that automatically chooses between 25kHz &
>8.33kHz, depending on the numbers entered. You can also
>force it to 25kHz only for slightly faster frequency
>entry (saves 1 digit), but the automatic mode seems most
>user-friendly and avoids in-flight reconfig.
>
> Of course, I have not yet flown with my proposed setup
>so its success remains to be seen, but you may be
>interested in what led to my decisions.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
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