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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fuel tank fluorination
From: Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 21:09:52

I had used the same company to fluorinate my circa 2001 tank to the highest 
"automotive
level",  and it did indeed come back with a much different "frosty" finish.
So although I cannot attest to its effectiveness as it still  :-(  does
not have fuel in it, the treatment surely did change the surface texture, so
it must have penetrated more than the reported factory treatment. This is the
same company that treats automotive fuel tanks to meet evaporative emissions 
standards, as well as at lower levels for items such as shampoo bottles etc. 
I did carefully clean my tank and cobra with naphtha, and wrapped and sealed 
them
in poly inside a shipping crate to keep them clean and as a result I did not
have any "burning" issues from the treatment.  I followed the company's advise
and made *all* finish cuts to the openings prior to treatment. To not do so
(as per the factory tanks) negates the surface treatment as the fuel migrates
into the material via the untreated cuts and subsequently swells and suffers
long term embrittlement.  I had gone it alone at the time as I could not find
any other takers - hopefully Andrew will have better luck. I figured the cost
is well worth the high likelihood that I will avoid the tank swelling and 
cracking
others have had over the long term, with the resultant hacking in of a 
replacement
down the road.

I am contemplating piggy-backing on this order to treat a small LDPE motorcycle
fuel tank I had purchased, but need to first verify with that mfg if this tank's
"x-linked PE" is compatible. They did not treat their tanks as they do not
need to meet (off road) emissions std's, but experience has shown me that these
tanks do smell up a garage.

Cheers and blue skies,
Pete
A239 - still a pile of parts.


> On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:28 PM, Andrew Sarangan <asarangan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> This is for builders in the U.S or Canada who have not bonded their
> tanks yet. I am planning on sending my tank for additional
> fluorination treatment prior to install. The cost is a mere $35/tank,
> but the minimum charge is $425, so I am looking for anyone interested
> in joining in the fun.
> 
> Although the newer Europa tanks are supposedly fluorinated, the
> consensus seems to be that they are not done to the same level as
> automotive tanks. There have been a number of scary stories and
> pictures of swelling/splitting tanks and leaks, so the hope is that
> one could avoid this catastrophe by spending the extra time and money
> before the install.
> 
> The company is http://inhanceproducts.com/ (formerly fluoroseal). You
> can look it up if you like.
> 
> Anyone interested please contact me. The idea is, you would clean and
> bag the tank and ship it to me. I will drive them over to the vendor
> in Columbus, OH, and then ship them back to you when they are done.
> Obviously, I am not providing any guarantees of the process or any
> assurances that it will even work. The vendor also says that if the
> tank is not spotlessly clean, it can destroy the whole tank., so there
> is some risks as well.
> 
> On the other hand, I would also appreciate hearing from anyone who has
> done fluorination on their tanks, and have any thoughts on this
> process.
> 
> 
> 
> 



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