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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Woodcomp or Airmaster Prop
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:05:50
Jerry,
Full disclosure here, as I am an Airmaster Dealer here in the States:

Woodcomp, Whirlwind and the AP420 are slightly faster at altitudes above 
8500 MSL than the three blade AP332.

The Airmaster AP332 with Warp Drive Blades is what most Europa's have.  
We are an older kit and we grew with Airmaster, so for the most part, 
those of us with six or more years have had the props as they fit like a 
glove and our cowl shape is made for their spinner.  Other than brushes 
we re-grease annually on inspections.  The Warp Drive is flat bottomed 
and has about 16 degrees of pitch and a long club section at the base.  
This cuts back efficiency a bit.  A very tough prop, but very easy to 
fix dings, basically bulletproof.  It is very quiet, even at takeoff 
setting of 5750 RPM.  Stay away from the Warp Drive tapered blade 
period.  All my performance problems have been a result of the tapered 
blade.  Most of the other manufacturers boast they are faster than the 
Airmaster but they are comparing their blade to the narrow chord blade 
which was heavily sold from the early 90s to 2002.  The inertia was 
lower for the narrow chord and frankly it was sold to prevent 
overstressing the Rotax starter sprag clutch.  The wide chord is at the 
max inertia for the Rotax at 67 inches, but I don't care as we need a 64 
inch.  If it has been working for over ten years, I'll go with 
performance every time.  I won't sell another narrow chord blade.

Whirlwind is hydraulic and I just love hydraulic props, but they leak 
and for any service they have to go back to the manufacturer.  Keep a 
spare fixed prop.  The blades have great twist and make a wooshing sound 
at full power, they are smooth and reliable.  You must use an 
aftermarket governor (speed controller) and installation also includes a 
wonky setup to lock in the cable and very expensive Rotax oil line set 
for the governor hookup.  They are very light and if struck the blades 
are totaled.  Great folks and good support.  They will paint to suit 
your colors.  It is the only other prop I recommend.

Woodcomp two blade is good but reliability and quick service are hit and 
miss.  Like the Whirlwind it has the larger twist and is fairly fast at 
altitude.  We don't see much difference in climb.  Most folks see a 
small difference in climb in favor of the Woodcomp over the AP332 and 
that is mostly MP and RPM fine pitch limit.  Aircraft weights, and drag 
vary so I don't hold much stock unless tested on the same aircraft and 
conditions.  Theoretically there should be no difference in climb.

The Woodcomp three blade is nice looking, but has the same reliability 
problem.  And you have to buy an after market controller for 
reliability.  Duh, they have been doing this long enough to get their 
stuff together.  In their defense, I believe part of the reliability is 
installation and testing at the factory.  A shame really, it is a nice 
looking blade.

Airmaster AP 4 series can be a two or three blade.
It has many choices of blades.  I personally like the Whirwind blades on 
the AP420 series for performance, Sensenich for the tapered tip and 
lower noise on the 430.  The AP430 is quieter and pulls very strong.  A 
real good climber and about 10 knots faster than the Warp Drive.  Kiev, 
and Bolly blades are also available, but they are very light blades and 
do not hold up as well as the WD in grass/sandy environments.  
Sensenich, and Whirlwind have a softer leading edge, so for rough or 
dirty fields or high grass expect to do maintenance...

MT makes a very good prop also.  They are reliable, but pricey and the 
language barrier is frustrating.  They are also a fast prop, but you 
will have to sell a child to own one.

One other prop is the Hoffman, they are wood/glass and have an electric 
drive, but the only ones I am familiar with are the mechanical push pull 
lever ones used on the Ximango MG.  I have sold Airmasters to those who 
have inquired with that plane...  They are out of Germany also.

As I said on my website.  I have never been stuck out with the 
Airmaster.  With a 9 volt battery, I can manually set a pitch to get 
home even with panel electrical failure.
You can mow the grass with the Warp Drive blade (I have done it, grass 
stains everywhere!)  I have flown my Europa with both the two blade 
AP420 and the AP332.  The 420 performs a bit better at altitude, is 
easier to get the cowl off, lighter by about 4-5 pounds, but is a bit 
noisier outside and in.  Not a lot of noise on the 64 inch.  Folks at 
the airport know when I have the two blade on.  On the longer AP420 
props I've tested the 420 is awesome at 70 inches, ground clearance is 
unacceptable for the Europa but great on the Rans S-6 and the float 
planes.  We actually pulled a float equipped S-6 past redline with a 
912S at 5500 RPM and 26 inches of MP.

I like things reliable (so remind me why I have a 914?) and my bang for 
the buck was the Airmaster.  In 6 years as the dealer, I just don't get 
problems or call backs.  I have only had to send them to the factory for 
prop strikes (at my insistence as I can't magneflux for hub cracks).  
Normally, guys just plug and play them and I get a call after six plus 
years asking how to fix rock dings.  ($75-170 per blade for a rebuild 
and repaint depending on damage).  The biggest complaint, Warp Drive 
blades are all black and Sensenich is White, with red tips, and black on 
the back only.  

Remember, each plane is different.  Apples and oranges is the normal 
comparison we owners and dealers get.  I get to see many prop requests 
and I have had two Woodcomp owners change to the Airmaster out of 
frustration with reliability.  I have never had an Airmaster returned.  
I have changed out the narrow chord blades though on the AP332 for wide 
chord.

I like plug and play, and that is what it is on the Europa XS or Classic 
with either the AP332 or 420/430 series.

Bud Yerly
US Airmaster Dealer


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: N6ZY<mailto:jffisher@gmail.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 10:22 PM
  Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp or Airmaster Prop


<jffisher@gmail.com<mailto:jffisher@gmail.com>>

  I am getting close to having to select an electric constant speed 
feathering prop for my 914-powered Europa XS Trigear.  The choice seems 
to be between the Woodcomp and the Airmaster.  Does anyone have flight 
experience of both, to provide a comparison?

  My initial impression is that the Airmaster has a good reputation, but 
that the available blades do not have sufficient twist near the root to 
offer optimum performance.  Woodcomp blades have the twist, but I have 
read comments that their after sales service is lacking, and there has 
been at least on in-flight failure.

  Are my impressions correct, and how does the performance, including 
top speed, compare?  I should add that i am based in the US, and that I 
am looking at a two blade prop.  I would appreciate any advice based on 
real experience.  Thanks

  Jerry


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