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Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 6 Msgs - 10/07/12
From: Gary Leinberger <Gary.Leinberger@millersville.edu>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:01:48

I just got home on Monday after a visit with my company commander from Germany
(early 1970's) in Louisville  and an old buddy from the same period in Ohio. 
Plane
flew great - got to do some IFR - as I was not going to scud run in the 
mountains
- Europa is really a nice IFR platform - especially with the two axis
autopilot - so got in 14 hours flying  from Tampa to Lancaster, via Rough River
- what a great plane! At every airport people asked questions - including the
tower people - we do have a reputation! (Or at least a neat airplane).

Gary and Susan Leinberger
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Today's Message Index:
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     1. 09:31 AM - Re: Out of service and missing Rough River  (Dale Hetrick)
     2. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: New to List  (Raimo Toivio)
     3. 02:12 PM - mud in cockpit  (William Bliss)
     4. 02:25 PM - 912ULS wanted  (William Bliss)
     5. 03:40 PM - Re: Rough River  (Troy Maynor)
     6. 05:09 PM - Re: Re: Rough River  (Robert Borger)


________________________________  Message 1  
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Out of service and missing Rough River
From: Dale Hetrick <gdh.hetrick@gmail.com>

Bud,
Really sorry to hear about your prostate problem.  I went through the same
diagnosis some years ago and opted to have it removed. Best decision ever
made since I'm still around to talk about sex (but can't do anything about
it!)
Good Luck and best regards,
Dale Hetrick
(I sold my Europa last year)
On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:

> **
> I hate to admit I am getting a bit old.
> I have the been diagnosed with prostate cancer.  We should have caught it
> earlier but that is life.  I have been going through biopsies, cat scans,
> bone scans, and had folks violating my body in new and unusual ways for the
> last month and have a bit more to do to check all the avenues of spread.  I
> know I could never be a gay person now.
>
> Good news is I have great doctors and facilities, good insurance, and have
> had to learn patience with those who practice medicine.  I have learned
> that health insurance professionals / death board members require more of
> my attention than the doctors (and I found it difficult not to be cranky
> with them).  My prognosis is full recovery after a few months of discomfort
> and more tests.  I understand that it is difficult to sleep when your groin
> glows in the dark.  We shall see.
>
> So you guys lucky enough to be at Rough River, I envy you and will miss an
> opportunity to bore you to death.
>
>
> Regards,
> Bud Yerly
>
>  Don't Archive
>
> *
>
> *
>
>

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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: New to List
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>

Hi Jeremy

I took this photo today after an interesting CO-flight. Shit happens
regularly.

My Laminova locates very low behind the engine middle between the pedals on
the firewall "shelf" under the airbox and it is very difficult to see w/o
taking at least an airbox off (I didn=B4t). Over it you can see an electric
(mains 230VAC) water heater for winter operations. Very near - a bit upp
and port side -  there is also a water thermostat.

I hope this helps.

- Raimo


2012/10/5 Jeremy Fisher <jffisher@gmail.com>

> Raimo,
>
> Do you have any photos of the Laminova unit installed?
>
> Jerry
> On Oct 5, 2012, at 10:31 AM, Raimo Toivio wrote:
>
> Remi,
>
> you did not ask me but I will comment.
>
> I have had a Laminova in use since 2007 in my Europa (912S) over 330
> flight hours. I am 100% happy. I installed Laminova because I did not lik
e
> an idea about a separate oil-cooler. The oil temp follow always the water
> temp. When the water temp rises, the oil temp is bit lower, but it follow
s
> the water temp slowly and vice versa.
>
> Climbing with full power I have typically the oil temp around 115C. When
> very hot (+30C) and climbing continuously to the FLs, it can be near 130C
> but never over so far.
>
> It is better you know I have also a water thermostat - I really cannot
> understand an idea about water cooling w/o a water thermostat. With it, I
> am able to make looong idle dives near or at VNE (which I love) and still
> have water & oil temps well in limits.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Raimo
> OH-XRT
> Finland
>
>
> 2012/10/5 Remi Guerner <air.guerner@orange.fr>
>
>
>>
>> Frans,
>>
>> I am just curious about the Laminova Oil-water exchanger. I understand
>> that in your installation, the oil is cooled by the coolant exclusively.
 So
>>  I suppose the oil temp  is higher than the coolant temp all the time. A
m I
>> right?  What oil temp do you get when in a sustained climb at max
>> continuous power?
>>
>> Remi Guerner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384686#384686
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>
>
> --
> Terveisin,
> Raimo Toivio
>
> RWM-SYSTEMS
> "=E4lyk=E4st=E4 informaatiotekniikkaa vuodesta 1980"
>
> 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4
> FINLAND
>
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> f. 03 - 3753 100
>
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> info@rwm.fi
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Terveisin,
Raimo Toivio

RWM-SYSTEMS
"=E4lyk=E4st=E4 informaatiotekniikkaa vuodesta 1980"

37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4
FINLAND

p. 03 - 3753 777
f. 03 - 3753 100

www.rwm.fi
info@rwm.fi

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From: "William Bliss" <william@wbliss.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: mud in cockpit


Hi All

Doing lots of circuits in G-WUFF. Field very wet and muddy. Suddenly I
realise that the instruments and windshield are becoming obscured by
emulsified sheep poo blasting up through the gear lever slot.....Does not
look good with the light blue trim. Has anyone fitted mud guards to the mono
version?

William Bliss


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From: "William Bliss" <william@wbliss.co.uk>
Subject: Europa-List: 912ULS wanted


Hi again

I am finding the slight uphill slope a bit much for the 80hp Rotax on
takeoff with 2 persons.

Where is it best to look for a good 912ULS 100hp? UK based.

William Bliss


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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rough River
From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>


We're STILL here. Weather at home is keeping us on the ground until Monday and
all our  friends have departed. I hope you all made it home safe. It was great
to see you all and wish more of you could have made it. It is so very beautiful
and cool here this time of year. I'll post some pix when I get home. Bob, I
would like to see those you took as well if its not big of a hassle.
Donna said I was elected to do a article for the Europa flyer. I don't know 
where
I was when that happened.  If any of you would like to contribute something,
comments, or pictures send it to me at  wingnut54 at charter dot net. We had
three Europas and one Cessna fly in. Gary and Susan Leinberger flew in with 
their
brand new beautiful hi-top trigear. They came all the way from Plant City,
FL with several stops planned on their way home to PA. Jim and Heather Butcher
as well as myself and Donna had the 2 Monowheels. Builder, Michael Grass came
in his Cessna. Builder, Dave Conrad drove in from Ohio, and last but not least,
Bob Borger drove from way down in Texas with gas cans and adult beverages.
Thanks so much Bob for helping us fuel up. There were 9 of us here and we really
enjoyed our time together. I'm looking forward to next year.
Troy and Donna


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=384887#384887


________________________________  Message 6  
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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Rough River
From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>


Hay Y'all,

I arrived home about 1745 hrs, 13 hrs after departure this morning.  Sorry to 
hear
you are still there.  I trust you are taking advantage and enjoying the place.

I'll put my pictures on my data share site for you to check out.  Feel free to
take any or none.  I'll let you know when they have been uploaded.

I too am looking forward to next year when we should be flying in.  Someone else
will have to bring gas cans and beverages.

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX  76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com

On Oct 7, 2012, at 5:39 PM, Troy Maynor <wingnut54@charter.net> wrote:


We're STILL here. Weather at home is keeping us on the ground until Monday and
all our  friends have departed. I hope you all made it home safe. It was great
to see you all and wish more of you could have made it. It is so very beautiful
and cool here this time of year. I'll post some pix when I get home. Bob, I
would like to see those you took as well if its not big of a hassle.
Donna said I was elected to do a article for the Europa flyer. I don't know 
where
I was when that happened.  If any of you would like to contribute something,
comments, or pictures send it to me at  wingnut54 at charter dot net. We had
three Europas and one Cessna fly in. Gary and Susan Leinberger flew in with 
their
brand new beautiful hi-top trigear. They came all the way from Plant City,
FL with several stops planned on their way home to PA. Jim and Heather Butcher
as well as myself and Donna had the 2 Monowheels. Builder, Michael Grass came
in his Cessna. Builder, Dave Conrad drove in from Ohio, and last but not least,
Bob Borger drove from way down in Texas with gas cans and adult beverages.
Thanks so much Bob for helping us fuel up. There were 9 of us here and we really
enjoyed our time together. I'm looking forward to next year.
Troy and Donna



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