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Re: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Lack of power with water heated carb body mountings
From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 07:25:38

Juergen,

OK, I'm assuming a constant speed prop on 912S as the 914 does not need carb 
heat
and a 912 does not normally call for a constant speed prop.

Yes you can rate the power by the numbers.  The charts on page 5-5 of the 
Operators
Manual give power vs fuel flow, manifold pressure, etc.  These should tell
you what power is produced at what RPM for a given manifold pressure and what
fuel flow to expect at that power setting.  

At flat pitch, takeoff setting on the prop, and 100% throttle, what is the RPM
and what is the manifold pressure?

The 912S operators manual says you should have 5800 RPM, the manifold pressure
should be around 30 in or 1 bar (1015.8 hPa).
At the same time, the fuel pressure should be between 2.2 psi & 5.8 psi (0.15 
bar
& 0.4 bar) and fuel flow 7 gal/hr (27 l/h).

If you don't reach those numbers, then you are down on power and you must figure
out why.  It's either not receiving enough air flow, enough fuel or the ignition
could be failing at some, lower, RPM.  Which of those numbers are not within
the operating specifications.  

It is not bad phrasing, you are doing great.  I have never seen one of the carb
heaters so I did not understand that they change the length of the intake tubes.
That should not be an issue as long as the cross-sectional area has not been
reduced. 

So, find out your takeoff numbers and see if there is an indication of why you
are not making the necessary power.

Blue skies & tailwinds,
Bob Borger
Europa XS Tri, Rotax 914, Airmaster C/S Prop.
Little Toot Sport Biplane, Lycoming Thunderbolt AEIO-320 EXP
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX  76208-5331
Cel: 817-992-1117
rlborger@mac.com

On May 21, 2012, at 2:18 AM, europapa wrote:


Bob,

I have got a two blade MT electrical constant speed propeller.
So I preset the rpm I want the prop to turn and the control unit keeps
for example the engine at 5200rpm even with the throttle at 40%.
So the power the engine  delivers cant be calculated via manifold pressure and
rpm. As there is no indicator for the pitch of the blades.
So I can not rate the lack of power by numbers.
The "longer suction tube" are the 15mm the carbs have been retracted from there
original position due to the carbheaters. The length the carbheater body is 
adding.
Sorry for my bad phrasing.

Juergen



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