Nothing boring about it, because if things stay pointed in the direction
they are, we soon won't have anything to fly.
It's brewing over here as well Graham. Some call it the Tea Party while
others just feel better saying it's conservative thinking but we are all
self responsibility types.
We are all getting rather tired of the few wanna tax & spend liberal
hollywood types getting into our pockets and running this country into
the ground. There is no difference between a dictator and a politician
if all the politicians come from the same current mold as each other.
Talk great to get elected that do the same dam thing.
It's time for a business man to run this country not a lawyer or career
politician. Perhaps it should be the same over there?
Anyone out there that agrees should go to www.fairtax.org
Unbelievable fix to a lot of things and they need all our help to get
thru.
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Apr 18, 2011, at 11:57 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
> I'd call it dry whit Bud! I sense a growing frustration though, the
obscene gap between the the top 1 % who ruined our economies and the
middle 80% who create the wealth they waste. The another spark from the
fire already burning in the Arab world!
> Better stop, I can get boring !:-)
> Graham
>
> From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, 18 April, 2011 16:29:46
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the ground.
>
> =EF=BB
> Now Graham,
> You know it costs a lot to live in Washington and London. Those suits
don't come cheap.
> We must all sacrifice for the greater good of the leaders. Just look
at all the good things they do.
> Why there's...UH ...and UH, well there is something good they do,
otherwise we wouldn't put up with them.
>
> Just a bit of sarcasm.
>
> Regards,
> Bud
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 3:14 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the ground.
>
> Enjoy yourself Bud, at our age pleasure comes before duty! At mine it
does anyway!
> Good luck to your son, he will need a lot of wisdom and survival
skills to pay off Ben Bernanke debts, unfortunately.
> My son is busy paying off the British bankers debts. And their bonuses
dammitt!
> Graham
>
>
> From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, 17 April, 2011 19:39:02
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the ground.
>
> =EF=BB
> Please don't overanalyze the Jab vs Rotax decision.
> Kevin is right, it is apples and oranges.
>
> Those of us near sea level, you are fine with a normally aspirated
engine.
> For those flying out of 5000 foot MSL airstrips and climbing in and
out of mountains, you can't beat a turbo.
> If you want super long range (ouch my bladder hurts) you need to look
at specific fuel consumption or cruise fuel flows.
> My Europa trigear holds 20 US gallons useable (yea the new tank holds
a bit more) and at 4.5 gallons an hour, it exceeds my bladder capacity.
> Geared vs direct drive is a mute point. They both work. Geared turns
the prop a bit slower, direct is a shorter prop. This is not a factor
for the Europa's prop limit of 64 inches. The Jab runs on AV gas, and
Aviation consumables and has a higher specific fuel consumption. The
Rotax can run on car gas without problems and is very economical at
cruise, and performs well at higher altitude... (It also gives neat
airshow departures.) Cooling is not an issue in my bird at all during
climb or takeoff. But there are those pesky hoses and the coolant
radiator to fool with in 5 years when I better change them.
>
> I have found my early early 914 is not the engine of the new 914s.
The new Jabiru 3300 is not the same engine as the original solid lifter
engines. Kit manufacturers who saddled themselves with only one engine
choice have come up with carburetor, cowl and cooling changes which have
made their engines more user friendly for their aircraft. There are
some idiots flying with Celsius info in the EFIS and telling the
prospective buyer the engine is running super cool. Thankfully, no one
I know is doing that on purpose. Rest assured, any changes from the
primary engine recommended by the aircraft manufacturer will need some
tinkering.
>
> Truth be known, I don't have time to tinker on my own plane anymore,
so I need a lazy mans fire wall forward for the trigear.
> That is why I have a Rotax and an Airmaster Prop. To me it is just
easier to maintain and work on this combination. It is as close to
FADEC as I can get with my wallet. Climb and dive, winter or summer,
just smack the throttle around and it takes it. No oil leaks, shock
cooling, taxi cooling, or noisy prop noise requiring ANR headsets to
limit my flying. Although those pesky leaky tires required me to make
new wheel pants for easy filling since it sits a lot...
>
> We are tinkering with the setup right now of the older model Jab and
Rotax in the shop. Tuning is an issue. When the storm damage is fixed,
we'll fly more and report back. Same with the Airmaster two blade vs
three. The setbacks we've had have slowed us down and removed labor and
financial assets, but we will press on.
>
> Note: Keep your ear to the ground as the recent storm damage across
the US has left many aircraft owners with totaled aircraft, but they
still have engines, and sales may be on the horizon.
>
> We have a new US owner. They are Mike and Erin DePeugh of Pekin Il.
Ken Gresham flew him in his Europa and he was hooked. I'll send some
pictures as soon as his plane and he arrives at the shop in May.
>
> Have a great week. I am off to my son's graduation and will have my
first 4 day in a row break since 2006. Ed and Chris will run the shop
as I may not want to come back to work.
>
> Regards,
> Bud
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE
DURING TAXI
>
<ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Not any more =C2=B4Bud I was lucky to be able to change it for a Rotax
914!
> Regards
> Bob Harrison GPTAG
>
> >----Original Message----
> >From: budyerly@msn.com
> >Date: 15/04/2011 22:48
> >To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> >Subj: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER TEMPERATURE
> DURING TAXI
>
> >
>
> >I had thought I was the only one with sleepless nights.
>
> >Bud
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>
> > Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 11:51 AM
>
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER
TEMPERATURE
> DURING TAXI
>
> >
>
> >
>
> ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:ptag.
> dev@tiscali.co.uk>>
>
> >
>
> > Hi! Frans, Graham /all
>
> > With comments about the Jabiru you are subjecting me to a
> nightmare
>
> > !!!!!!!!!!!! don't tempt me !
>
> > Regards
>
> > Bob Harrison G_PTAG
>
> >
>
> > >----Original Message----
>
> > >From: grahamsingleton@btinternet.com<mailto:
> grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> > >Date: 15/04/2011 11:46
>
> > >To: <europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>>
>
> > >Subj: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND
>
> > NEW OVER TEMPERATURE DURING TAXI
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >Frans
>
> >
>
> > >I think you are right, much more logical conclusions than mine !:-
> )
>
> >
>
> > >Agree about the Jabiru also, sad but geared and liquid cooled
> will
>
> > always have a
>
> >
>
> > >performance advantage. More complication too of course but a more
>
> > sensible
>
> >
>
> > >compromise I think.
>
> >
>
> > >regards
>
> >
>
> > >Graham
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >________________________________
>
> >
>
> > >From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl<mailto:
> frans@privatepilots.nl>>
>
> >
>
> > >To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>
> >
>
> > >Sent: Friday, 15 April, 2011 11:17:12
>
> >
>
> > >Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU 3300 BRAND NEW OVER
> TEMPERATURE
>
> > DURING
>
> >
>
> > >TAXI
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> <frans@privatepilots<mailto:frans@privatepilots>.
>
> > nl>
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >On 04/15/2011 10:17 AM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >> To a certain extent the same thing happens with Rotax so the
> front
>
> >
>
> > >> cylinders get more fuel than the rear at some throttle
> settings,
>
> > drops
>
> >
>
> > >> of fuel don't turn corners the same as air molecules!
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >I believe the "problem" with the Rotax is of a different nature.
>
> > There
>
> >
>
> > >are two carbs, and the inlet pulses are not equally distributed.
> Each
>
> >
>
> > >carb will see two inlet pulses in sequence, then followed by a
> long
>
> >
>
> > >pause when the cylinders on the other side (fed by the other
> carb)
>
> > have
>
> >
>
> > >their respective inlet pulses.
>
> >
>
> > >After the pause, the flow of fuel inside the nozzles is stalled.
> With
>
> >
>
> > >the first cylinder breathing, the fuel has to start moving again,
> and
>
> >
>
> > >the second cylinder has the benefit that the fuel is already up to
>
> >
>
> > >speed. So the second cylinder in the sequence receives a slightly
>
> > richer
>
> >
>
> > >mixture.
>
> >
>
> > >A solution can be to use a bigger bore balance tube. Some Italian
>
> >
>
> > >company is selling a pair of manifolds and balance tube for this
>
> >
>
> > >purpose, and the manifolds have already the bosses in them to
> mount
>
> > fuel
>
> >
>
> > >injectors for future upgrades (and using the carbs as fuelless
>
> > throttle
>
> >
>
> > >bodies and backup in case the EFI fails).
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >Ok,the subject was "Jabiru". To keep it in the subject: After the
>
> > long
>
> >
>
> > >list of problems and disadvantages, can anybody enlighten me what
> the
>
> >
>
> > >benefit is of the Jab over the Rotax? (I assume there must be
> one,
>
> > why
>
> >
>
> > >else would anyone bother to install one?)
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >Frans=================
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