Craig, you are right!
I am able to take out 10 kilos but problem is my wife - she is just
perfect now and changing her for lighter one just for flying with
children does not make sense.
MTOW 658 kg: that is for +3,8G with speed 133 knots.
Flying carefully below 700 kgs is OK IMHO.
I have seen two XXL-size englismen flying around w fully equipped Europa
and they had all kind of heavy camping stuff omboard. Claimed no
problems and their MTOW was only 621 kgs.
Flying 1 hour also means your landing weight is about 12 kgs less
because of used fuel.
In my mind controlling C of G is the most important think for safety.
So, they main problem is that children are growing taller every single
day!
I think the comfortable hight limit for the back seat passengers in
Europa is at or below 150 cm /59 inches.
That means western girls=B4s age younger than 12 years - so I have max 4
years time for whole family fying by Europa...no bubble roof window for
the back seat passengers!
Your baby - how old is she/he? She/he will love flying with you. Look at
the attached pic - during those days they were 1 and 4 years young. They
were sleeping but that is only because Cessna flights were so boring.
I remember early days when Europa announced to have two back seats for
children but never heard later.
Raimo OH-XRT
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:22 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Fw: Europa 4-seater
Raimo, I think you might have to go on a diet, as your girls get
bigger so you dont go over MTOW :)
I had considered simmilar for my baby
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2009 7:20 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Europa 4-seater
Hi (all those who like flying with a good company!)
I am happy to let you know we had today "Europa 4-seater flight".
That has been my dream since I started building 1999.
Actually, there were my daughters Tuuli 8 years and Merete 5 years.
Me and my wife omboard with full thank TOW was 656 kgs (1443 lbs).
My MTOW is 658 kgs (1450 lbs).
Our CofG was well between limits (almost center because added
Airmaster prop hub 7 kgs (15,4 lbs)).
Everything went WELL and there were not any problems.
Children had fun - Europa is a real family machine!
I am going to have a 4-place intercom next.
My Europa will be permitted (in this country) for 4-seater (actually
2+2), max 60 kgs (132 lbs) on the back seat (with certified seat belts).
So, Europa XS is almost like that French fun machine Dyn Aero=B4s
4s...
Raimo OH-XRT
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