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RE: Europa-List: Re: Seat Belt Restraint Points

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Seat Belt Restraint Points
From: rick <rick@amimotormanagement.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 14:53:15

Hi Steve

Regarding S & F lets hope we can get a DOTH for 24th or 25th April at
Lakeland! The Virgin Atlantic and BA fares are good for the 23rd on as the
school hols are over.

Cheers

Rick
G-RIKS 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Pitt
Sent: 22 January 2009 12:36
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Seat Belt Restraint Points

--> <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>

Gentlemen and ladies,
I have only just picked up on this thread and thought I would pass on
discussions that I had with Andy 3 years ago when he was the lone Europa rep
at Sun'n'Fun.
We discussed repositioning the upper restraint and the suggestion was to
build in a hard point where the 'd' panel met the roof behind the seats. The
restraint would need careful positioning to get the straight pull for both
seatbelts but Andy did a quick 'bag of fag packet' calculation that the
shear and direct pull forces could be accomodated by this repositioning.
Nothing further was done with this idea as he was to move to the PFA
straight after the show.
I hope that this is of assistance and that someone might pursue this idea.
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
PS the gang from the UK will be at Sun'n'Fun again this year so here's to
meeting up with old friends again. I have been advised that the stands are
N99 and N100.

----- Original Message -----
From: "JR Gowing" <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Seat Belt Restraint Points


>
> Ira
> Thank you for your reply. It seems that Europa could have done a better 
> job but in rushing against time and money you can't get everything exactly

> right!
>
> It sounds as if your idea would anchor you in alright - but the attachment

> would be very long.
>
> Best Wishes
> JR (bob) Gowing
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:11 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Seat Belt Restraint Points
>
>
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> Sorry for the delay in my response about belt attachments.
>>
>> I followed the guidance of AC21-34 (?, but cited in this group in 2007)
>> I also showed it to Andy Draper at SnF when he was still with Europa,
>> and he thought it a reasonable approach.  I designed and put it together
>> under the  watchful eyes of Bud and Russell at FC.
>>
>> Simply, I bonded aluminum attach points to the lateral seam of the
>> fuselage behind the baggage bulkhead about a foot. The initial bonding
>> was with Redux and the bracket was perforated with lightening holes
>> through which floxxed Redux protruded. This was buried under 4 plies
>> of BID each 18-20 inches square.  A steel shackle was professionally
>> crimped at a marina to 1/4" steel cable to the common shackle for
>> the shoulder belts. The cables run through small holes in the D bulkhead.
>> This raises the belt angle to approximately level from the shoulder to
>> seam attach.  I have a professional interest in the biomechanics of
>> aircraft injuries and have treated several pilots with head injuries
>> and spinal compression fractures.  I feel much better about my
>> approach than the factory standard. Of course the proof will be in the
>> pudding after a spike deceleration.
>>
>> --------
>> Ira N224XS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=226028#226028
>>
>>
>>
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>
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