Hi Bob
Karel's problems have nothing to do with European Union regulations. They
are due entirely to the fact that, unlike nearly all the other EU countires
,
the UK has not signed up to the Schengen agreement, which eliminates passpo
rt
control between participating countries. Belgian regulations therefore requ
ire
Karel to depart from an airfield with passport control when he wants to go
to the UK.
If you could concentrate your considerable political energies on persuading
the UK government to sign up to the Schengen deal then Karel could fly from
any airfield in Belgium to any airfield in the UK by just filing a flight
plan. UK based pilots would enjoy similar benefits in that they would no lo
nger
have to land at an airfield with customs when flying to mainland Europe.
Best regards
John Heykoop
In a message dated 04/12/2008 23:18:08 GMT Standard Time,
ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk writes:
Hi! Karel.
This =9Csmacks=9D of the imposition of a =9CTerminal Navi
gation Charge=9D which
the Tempelhof =9Czeigheil=9D are just demanding from me! Unle
ss there is
something you really want to do (like demonstrate outside the European Parl
iament!)
or see in Belgium I guess the way round it is NOT to visit the damn place!
But if you are based there I guess you are =9Cbetween a rock and a ha
rd place=9D!
In the meantime wake up to the real world of undemocratic European Union
Militia State Dictatorship Population
Control like the rest of the public need to get used to! Then start to do
something about it.(NO JOKE!)
Best Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of karelvranken
Sent: 04 December 2008 22:01
Subject: Europa-List: Warning.
Dear Europaphiles,
During the month of october I received a lettre from the Belgian Federal
Police notifying me that for the exit or entrance in the Shengen Countries
we
need to use one of the six recognised aerports in Belgium: Brussels, Antwer
p,
Li=C3=A8ge, Charleroi, Ostend and Kortrijk. Offenders shall be fined....et
c.
Last time I was in England I coasted in at Lydd. There was nobody in the
office nor police nor customs. The other times before I never saw the custo
ms in
Popham, Dunkeswell or Welshpool even when I asked for, several hours in
advance with the adequate form.
I never refuse a control from whatever authority, if they ask me. But why
have I to pay and tell them what I will do with my small aircraft? Is this
European freedom? Why were we upset in Arad (Roumania) or Forli (Italia) wi
th
this officialdom?
To avoid the cost for 4 extra landings (Lydd 15=C2=A3 and Kortrijk 23 Euro
) or
approximately 92 Euro for a one day trip to England, I suggested that they
could attach an electronic stamp to my ankle like is done for prisonners in
conditional liberty. They said that is only for light criminals! (Joke)
Best regards,
Karel Vranken, #447 F-PKRL
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