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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Minimum trim speed
From: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 11:59:54

Hi Dave,

As I recall, we get a power off (idle) speed of about 60 knots when our trim is
about centered, as per the LED trim position indicator that came with the kit.
To
the best of my knowledge, we have never flown with the trim on the 'up' (slower
speed) side of the centered trim position.  Takeoff position is 2 notches down
on
the trim indicator. With half of our trim range on the (un-explored) slower side
of 60 knots, I have to think there is plenty of range to trim all the way to
stall, if desired.
I'll try to do a little more testing on this hypothesis this weekend.

regards,
Terry Seaver
N135TD
(short wing U2)

DJA727@aol.com wrote:

>
> Hello there all you flying Europa owners!
>
> I am now a test pilot and I would like some input, if you could. I have now
> flown the Mini U2 (motorgllider) 2 flights and 1.8 hours. It has gone very
> well, except for today's near disaster landing. I have not explored the
> slower speeds enough and was too conservative on the approach speed. (too
> fast). The rest of the story, I will not tell, as it must be obvious. It
> ended up OK with a go around.
>
> The troubling thing I have encountered is that I can only trim to about 65
> knots minimum and that is at full aft trim. I have not refined this exactly,
> but it is close. The airplane acts as if it is at a too far forward CG. My CG
> sits at 59.4, which is wwell within the envelope for the short wings. I
> susect the long wings may have some adjustments here. I have checked again
> all the controls and trim system movements and they all check out fine. My
> question to the group is:
>
> With the short wings, what is the minimum airspeed you can trim the airplane
> - especially at a forward CG?
>
> Also, in the videos of takeoffs, I see the tailwheel come up well before the
> airplane main leaves the ground. I am paranoid about keeping the stick aft
> and was wondering what those experienced with this configuration find during
> takeoff for the tail coming off the ground. My airplane has been leaping off
> the ground abruptly as I am keeping that stick probably too far back too
> long.
>
> Flight #3 coming up in a few days, with a more aft CG!
>
> Dave
> A227
> Mini U2 (undamaged!)
>




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