Hi Kevin,
Thank you for your thoughts.
I also am a subscriber to a couple of lists hosted by Yahoo
and like you; I have had no problems with their service. It
is certainly an acceptable option for me, but it an option
that I believe was flogged by others on the Europa-Forum
last year when someone proposed switching to it.
Despite being a Yahoo stockholder, I still have a preference
for Matronics because of Matt's dedication and focus on the
aviation community. Matt does have his optional annual fund
raiser that you need to contend with, but that is the nature
of user-supported services.
Regards,
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Kevin Taylor
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Is The UK list off the air?
<kevin@eastyorkshire.co.uk>
Bruce,
What about other options???
I am on 5 other Egroups. All aviation based and all with
Yahoo groups. They
are extremely reliable you don't get Spam, well I don't and
you don't get
adds unless you read on line and you don't get begging
letters asking for
cash to support it. I guess there must be a downside
somewhere but I don't
remember seeing it.
It doesn't take any managing at all you can have a moderator
and his job is
to chuck off anyone that steps out of line. You have a files
section for
posting pictures and loads of stuff like on line calendars.
Maybe I'm bias towards Yahoo but that's because I have seen
it run so well
for ages.
Take the BMAA microlight group moderated by the British
Microlight Aircraft
Association with over 500 members and I don't remember it
going down once in
18 months since I joined.
Regards
Kev T
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
Bruce
Ludeman
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Is The UK list off the air?
<bruce@justbruce.com>
All,
First let me say that I appreciate the time and efforts of
the people who spend time managing the "old" Europa-Forum.
My hobby is building a Europa, whereas those who support
this list with their time and efforts choose to spend their
hobby-time supporting and managing list-servers.
Because it is a hobby for them, my opinion is that issues
other than reliability, security, speed, attachment
filtering, and ease of list management are the basis for
continuing with list-hosting by AvNet.
At one time, I felt strongly that the Europa-Forum managers
would certainly like to dump their list-hosting burden and,
like me, spend their time on their Europas. With that in
mind, I talked to Matt at Matronics regarding his ability
and willingness to host the old Europa-Forum. As a
participant in some of the other aviation lists that he
hosts on his servers, I was able to experience the extremely
reliable and spam-free hosting-service that he voluntarily
provides to the home-built community.
Needless to say, Matt was extremely anxious to work with us
and I informed the Europa-Forum manager of Matt's interest.
Matt, in his enthusiasm, actually put up the "new"
Europa-List on his servers prior to any agreement from the
Europa-Forum that they would switch.
Obviously the switch-over was never made, and the stated
reason as I recall was some issue with the software that
Matt uses (or may have used) on his servers. After
reflecting on the basis for their decision, I concluded that
a switch would kill their hobby. I can relate to that
decision since, like them, I have no interest in having an
expert build my Europa as doing so would kill the hobby
aspect of my endeavors.
The choice remains -- continuing with hobbyists whose
efforts we appreciate, or switching to a extremely
successful, professionally run organization (Matronics) that
specializes in hosting aviation-related lists.
Just my opinion.
Bruce
XS142
Tracy, California
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
John Cliff
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Is The UK list off the air?
<john@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
<flyinggpa@attbi.com>
>
> All
>
> Is the Europs list from the UK off the air? I was getting
lots of traffic up
till Sunday. Tow days without a thing. What is happening?
The server is bust again (!).
John Cliff
(from another world ...)
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