Bruce & group,
With myself being relatively new to the community, I'd really like to
avoid ruffling any feathers - but I whole-heartedly agree with your
comments.
Beyond the fact that the matronics list is very reliable, with the
Matronics lists being the defacto-standard for North-American builders,
---From a marketing perspective having an active matronics Europa-list
would be very helpful in educating the US/Canada builder community about
this great plane. Who knows, maybe the North American #'s would increase
as a result! With the massive numbers of pilots in NA, it's a real
shame that there are so few Europas. I realize that the rotax vs
lycoming issue is a big part of the Europa's lack of penetration in the
NA market, but an active builder's list sure wouldn't hurt. In fact,
with the high quality of the Europa Lister's postings and the very
helpful nature of the crowd, I have to think it would help greatly in
bringing in more NA homebuilders to this great plane.
Just my $0.02 (or $0.013 Canadian)
Cheers,
Pete
A239 dual-wing
-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Ludeman [mailto:bruce@justbruce.com]
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Is The UK list off the air?
All,
First let me say that I appreciate the time and efforts of
the people who spend time managing the "old" Europa-Forum.
My hobby is building a Europa, whereas those who support
this list with their time and efforts choose to spend their
hobby-time supporting and managing list-servers.
Because it is a hobby for them, my opinion is that issues
other than reliability, security, speed, attachment
filtering, and ease of list management are the basis for
continuing with list-hosting by AvNet.
At one time, I felt strongly that the Europa-Forum managers
would certainly like to dump their list-hosting burden and,
like me, spend their time on their Europas. With that in
mind, I talked to Matt at Matronics regarding his ability
and willingness to host the old Europa-Forum. As a
participant in some of the other aviation lists that he
hosts on his servers, I was able to experience the extremely
reliable and spam-free hosting-service that he voluntarily
provides to the home-built community.
Needless to say, Matt was extremely anxious to work with us
and I informed the Europa-Forum manager of Matt's interest.
Matt, in his enthusiasm, actually put up the "new"
Europa-List on his servers prior to any agreement from the
Europa-Forum that they would switch.
Obviously the switch-over was never made, and the stated
reason as I recall was some issue with the software that
Matt uses (or may have used) on his servers. After
reflecting on the basis for their decision, I concluded that
a switch would kill their hobby. I can relate to that
decision since, like them, I have no interest in having an
expert build my Europa as doing so would kill the hobby
aspect of my endeavors.
The choice remains -- continuing with hobbyists whose
efforts we appreciate, or switching to a extremely
successful, professionally run organization (Matronics) that
specializes in hosting aviation-related lists.
Just my opinion.
Bruce
XS142
Tracy, California
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
John Cliff
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Is The UK list off the air?
<john@crixbinfield.freeserve.co.uk>
<flyinggpa@attbi.com>
>
> All
>
> Is the Europs list from the UK off the air? I was getting
lots of traffic up
till Sunday. Tow days without a thing. What is happening?
The server is bust again (!).
John Cliff
(from another world ...)
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