Hi Rob,
I have had an airframe buffet on the final turn. It was quite clear and
with a little power and a push on the stick went away.
I was overweight (long range fual tank and corpulent son) and had to
follow an ultralight in so was a little slow.
I now never go below 70 kts into the turn to final.
Barry Tennant
Rob Housman schrieb:
>
> It's worth the bucks because it can save your bacon. Using some type of AOA
> is the ONLY way you can be sure when the a/c is about to stall (has anyone
> out there felt airframe buffet during a base to final turn and lived to tell
> about it?), and the PSS "device" has no moving parts which made my decision
> to buy it rather easy.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Rob Housman
> A070
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Behalf Of Richard Iddon
> Subject: Re: PSS AOA sensor position standardization
>
> Being a relatively inexperienced pilot, I've never come across an AOA sensor
> before, just a stall warner on the cherokees & cessna's I learned in. I've
> looked at the web site but what are forum members experiences of this
> equipment, is it worth the bucks and can I get one in the UK?
>
> Richard Iddon ( nearly finished my wings) 533
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: forum-owner@europaclub.org.uk
> Subject: Re: PSS AOA sensor position standardization
>
> PSS' website is http://www.angle-of-attack.com. The Sport costs $890, the
> Professional $1500.
> The major difference is in the display, and most purchasers ( according to
> the company ) buy the
> Sport, since it gives the same information, including synthesized voice
> warnings, and it's a whole
> lot smaller so it fits on the glareshield better. The Pro has a digital AOA
> readout and a more
> complicated display.
> The last time I checked with PSS they would sell you the sensor alone for
> $450. I'm not sure if
> you pay a bit more in total to split your order this way.
>
> Has anyone out there used larger I.D. pneumatic tubing for their
> Pitot-Static runs than the standard
> 1/4" OD 1/8" ID supplied?
>
> Shaun
> A207
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lyle Antieau" <lyle@antieau.org>
> Subject: Re: PSS AOA sensor position standardization
>
> > I hadn't given the AoA much thought, but am working on my wings and should
> > probably figure out what I'm doing before closing them out. Does PPS have
> > a web site? How much was it for only the sensors? Does the sport version
> > have a stall warning horn?
> >
> > Lyle Antieau
> > A137
> >
> > > Just curious, of those that are using the PPS AoA, did you decide on
> > > the pro or sport versions? Quite abit difference in cost. I purchased
> > > only the sensors portion of the kit as I have yet to make up my mind on
> > > which version.
> > >
> > > Erich Trombley
> > > A028
> > >
> > > writes:
> > >> Wow, what rapid responses!
> > >>
> > >> In my talks with the boss at PSS, I discussed the glider/short wings
> > >> conundrum.
> > >> One needs to add a second EPROM when the wings swap, since the
> > >> airfoil
> > >> is different. If we didn't have flaps, that could have been the easy
> > >> switch.
> > >> Nevertheless, it should be possible to piggyback a small circuit
> > >> board with
> > >> an electronic switch onto the original EPROM socket that would be
> > >> microswitched to an appropriate tang on the wing root.
> > >>
> > >> PSS is also in the process of certificating the AOA sport, so the
> > >> product
> > >> development is officially "mature", i.e., finished. There were some
> > >> comments
> > >> from some of my RV friends about the display or warnings being
> > >> underdamped,
> > >> which PSS claims has been solved within the last year with V.7 of the
> > >> software.
> > >>
> > >> Some of you have been irritated that PSS didn't partner with BlueMnt
> > >> to
> > >> put the AOA indicator on-screen. Aside from there being little
> > >> incentive
> > >> for them to do that, on-panel is the wrong place for an AOA. It
> > >> needs to
> > >> be in the pilot's field of view as s/he looks out of the window
> > >> during
> > >> landing, which is why you see so many AOA-sports sitting on top of
> > >> the
> > >> glareshield.
> > >>
> > >> Continue!
> > >>
> > >> Shaun
> > >> A207
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "James H. Nelson" <europajim@juno.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: PSS AOA sensor position standardization
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > If you check out the positioning by way of the manual, you do not
> > >> line
> > >> > the two ports up vertically. What you do is keep them in line tip
> > >> to
> > >> > trail but off set tip to root. Does that make sense. This puts
> > >> the
> > >> > ports at the same distance from the leading edge but not the same
> > >> > distance from the wing tip. Mine is off set about 2" with the
> > >> lower port
> > >> > closer to the root. My wing is a foam wing and I cut a 6" hole
> > >> through
> > >> > the bottom skin and made a flange to put inside to reattach the
> > >> cover
> > >> > when I finished the installation. I then ran my urethane lines
> > >> out to
> > >> > the tip and ran them back through the conduit I used for the wing
> > >> wiring.
> > >> > BTW, proprietary Software has a disconnect for their tubes. I am
> > >> > getting mine next week. I forgot to mention it to Jim at PS to
> > >> include
> > >> > it with the kit. I also sent Jim the way we "operate" our Europa
> > >> a/c.
> > >> > Since we mono wheel drivers have no control for separating flap
> > >> from gear
> > >> > extensions and the tri gear drivers only have flaps to operate,
> > >> I've
> > >> > asked Jim to help us on our setups to the CPU in the unit. I will
> > >> keep
> > >> > you up dated.
> > >> > Well, I'm doing the final bits to proceed with painting.
> > >> Which I
> > >> > should have done for Sun-N-Fun. I'll be bringing my a/c to the
> > >> Europa
> > >> > dinner as one of at least four others. It will give us all a
> > >> chance to
> > >> > see the many varietys we are doing.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Jim Nelson
> > >> >
> > >> > A058 N15JN
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> writes:
> > >> > > Shaun:
> > >> > > I'm not going either.............:-(
> > >> > > I have foam wings, and that seems to be old poo so
> > >> don't
> > >> > > think
> > >> > > I'm topical. I phone the boss at Proprietary and we had a long
> > >> chat,
> > >> > > the nub
> > >> > > of which was you can be inside his limits and the only thing
> > >> that's
> > >> > > critical
> > >> > > is that the two orifices are directly vertical one under the
> > >> other.
> > >> > > He said
> > >> > > the real comparison is between them rather than the proper
> > >> readings
> > >> > > of each.
> > >> > > Hope this softens worries somewhat - sorry I can't speak for the
> > >> XS
> > >> > > models.
> > >> > > Ferg
> > >> > > A064
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
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> > >> > >
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