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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wing Walk Tape
From: ALAN YERLY <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 11:58:10
Fred,
A foam core would work but filler would be more solid and resist those 
high heels.
In my answer to Ron Parigoris on my experiment:
My use has been with standard 7725 Bid, two layers on the bias.  That is 
the strands run at 45 degrees to the wing root rib.

To stiffen the area, once the fillet is on and filled, then add layers 
on top, peel ply, then fill again.  You can use flox as the filler but 
expand cell will do.  Figure it this way.  The filler is now another 
core material.  That makes a very stiff core and will aid in making the 
elasticity lower.  If you add carbon fiber rather than E glass, it will 
make it even more stiffer as the carbon will make the layer nearly 
rigid..

I do not know without building a panel if the carbon is more effective.  
Flox and carbon would prevent a Stilleto heel from going through the 
skin, but at what cost in weight.  A layer of carbon then filler then 
more carbon would be super hard, very ridged and cost about another $200 
in material...  

This only need be done for the guy who puts weight ahead of the spar.  
Behind the spar is OK for the tail dragger crowd.  Just don't put your 
foot beyond the spar.

Bud.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Fred Klein<mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:13 AM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wing Walk Tape


  On Feb 2, 2009, at 7:02 AM, ALAN YERLY wrote:


    the forward D tube of the wing is foam and glass sandwich only 
supported by the root rib and the next rib is nearly 16 inches further 
outboard.  I'm afraid the flexing of this area means any filler in that 
area will crack.  The depth of the filler is quite thick here due to the 
transition from the wing fillet.  That is why I have started to add 
glass layers over the filler from the fillet outboard to try to stiffen 
this area. 


  Bud,


  After following this thread, I'm tempted to suggest another possible 
solution.


  I have some 1/8 inch Lastafoam; after sanding off the gelcoat, I could 
bond a piece say 6 inches wide and say 10 inches (fore and aft) onto the 
top of the D tube abutting the edge of the wing root fairing...then 
sanding it down (inboard) level with the thickness of the fairing and 
carefully feathering it down to nothing (outboard)...this would avoid 
excessive depth of filler...then cover what's left of the foam w/ some 
FG, say 2 layers of BID lapping over the wing root fairing.


  Caution, of course, should be observed for any alteration of the 
airfoil, but conceptually, one would strive to maintain what results 
---From the use of filler in this area...merely substituting foam for 
filler.


  Your reaction?


  Fred


  PS: I appreciated your post a while back which cautioned against any 
attempts to close the trim tab control arm slots in the fuselage, saving 
me some time and potential grief...thanks!


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