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Re: Engine options

Subject: Re: Engine options
From: ami mcfadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:34:27
Six years. Thats four to do the installation plus two to argue the toss
prior to approval.

Duncan McFadyean
-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Davis <lts@avnet.co.uk>
Date: Friday, May 18, 2001 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: Engine options


>Quite agree. Michel Colomban spent two years developing the engine
>installation for his Ban-bi. That's probably not as long as he spent on the
>airframe but none the less if it takes him two years how long would it take
>mere mortals?
>Jerry
>
>                                                LTS@avnet.co.uk
>                                http://www.avnet.co.uk/touchdown
>----- Original Message -----
From: Nigel Charles <72016.3721@compuserve.com>
>Subject: Re: Engine options
>
>
>> Message text written by INTERNET:clevelee@cswebmail.com
>> >'m going through the same soul searching for my Mono XS.  Have you
>visited
>> Bart & Henks engine web page yet?  Good links there.  The Jabiru 3300
>looks
>> real nice, but it doesn't have the hours on it that the smaller engine
>has.
>> I'm looking closely at the Stratus EA81 Subaru conversion.  This appears
>to
>> be a well designed unit that has a decent safety record (unlike the NSI).
>> Drawback is 200 lbs installed (about 40 more than the 912S). On the
>upside,
>> it has about 15% more torque, runs more smoothly, (mostly)off the shelf
>> parts and costs 15% less.
>> Other interesting option that I don't hear much about is the
>Able/Altimizer
>> 2.44 Litre VW conversion with 120 HP @ 3000 rpm, 160 lbs direct drive.
>> This is a big bore 'slow turning' engine compared to the Jabiru.  Again,
>> more torque, comparable with the Subaru.  Price is about the same as the
>> Stratus, major drawback I think is the width of the engine.  Don't know
>how
>> our Europas would look with cowl cheeks. Ables web site is
>> http://www.altimizer.com/specs.html
>> <
>>
>> Be aware that the Subaru engine is significantly heavier than the Rotax
or
>> Jabiru. Here in the UK most builders have moved away from the Subaru
>> realising that the extra weight is a significant penalty in an a/c that
>was
>> designed around the Rotax 912. Now that the 912S is available with 100hp
>> there is less reason to consider heavier engines.
>>
>> Whilst the diesel is the way to go in the future for light aircraft (due
>to
>> fuel availability, price and fire safety) it is still like the Subaru on
>> the heavy side for the Europa.
>>
>> Having spoken to a Jabiru a/c owner recently owners of these engines
might
>> like to know that the starter motors in these new engines are
>reconditioned
>> Nissan units. He found out when his starter failed after 50hrs engine
>time.
>> When he took it apart it was obvious that this starter had not been
>> reconditioned.
>>
>> If you consider any engine which is new to the Europa it might be worth
>> considering Ivan Shaw's comment that it often takes more time and effort
>in
>> development work matching a new engine to an a/c than it does building
the
>> airframe in the first place.
>>
>> Nigel Charles
>
>



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