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Re: Europa-List: Re: Side-slipping the Europa?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Side-slipping the Europa?
From: Pete Zut <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2021 18:51:08
as always, Bud's insights are great!

that said, FWIW, my classic's gear slot is absolutely, definitely negative
pressure wrt to the cabin, proved by repeated tests with paper and fabric
getting sucked onto the slots.

I believe most of the ingress of any exhaust in my ship is through the flap
drive slots, when they are extended.

Cheers,
Pete

On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 4:49 PM Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com> wrote:

> Ron,
>
> By the design of the static port on the XS a side slip has little effect
> on the static like in many fuselage mounted static ports so the airspeed
> does not jump around slipping right or left.  Even on IFR aircraft I use
> the static port but I also install a cabin alternate static when called
> for.  As I've said in other documents, in my experience the cockpit
> static is less than 2 knots and 25 feet from stall speed to cruise.
>
>
> The best way to get exhaust smell into the cockpit is actually placing a
> vent where shown on the side of the aircraft tunnel near the pilots knee.
> Move the air inlet up to near the bond line or leave the long tail pipe
> because at speeds from 75 to 90 in a climb the exhaust comes right into
> mine due to the short stack.  I can even see a small amount of soot
> tracking from my exhaust pipe up over the wing and directly into my NACA.
> I am forced to fly with my pilot side NACA vent closed all the time excep
t
> at cruise.  NASTY!
>
>
> Mono exhaust with the 912/914 XS exhaust with the proper sized exhaust
> down pipe seems to work fine avoiding any exhaust smell during pattern wo
rk
> and side slips.  The Jabiru and Classic aircraft exhaust is normally
> through the exit duct right down or nearly down the centerline and can
> enter the wheel well.  The Jabiru Trigear is not a problem.  The 912
> Classic with the exhaust angled down and to the side seems to be OK also.
> At cruise there is quite a bit of air that comes through the gear handle
> and brake during cruise.  But I have not seen the CO monitor ever alarm
> or smell exhaust.  It just gets cold on the hands at high cruise
> altitudes, but then again, I'm from Florida.  72F is cold for me.
>
>
> Hopefully, other mono owners will have other ideas on sealing the mono.  
A
> small gap and a simple smoothing fairing around the wheel that laps the
> belly would be enough I would think.  However, one should use caution on
> installing fairings on the gear as the fairing must not interfere with
> retraction or extension.  I'd hate to fly in the winter with slush in my
> gear door freezing and locking my gear up.  That's part of that 20,000
> compromises we make.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bud Yerly
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com> On Behalf Of rparigoris
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2021 3:45 PM
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> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Side-slipping the Europa?
>
>
> Hi Bud Great info as always, thank you. Few more questions about
> slipping, specifically on 914 Mono XS: Does airspeed work pretty good in
> both left and right side slips with airspeed/pitot in factory position?
> Mono with gear and airbrake slots not covered, what's the best way to get
> exhaust into the cockpit? As far as power setting, left or right slip? Ro
n
> P.
>
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