Dear David,
_you are right as usually, _but however, think about accident in the
remote place (and you have not launched your PLB),
ELT is your only hope (if you happen to be alive) . I do understand that
it is not so easy to you to understand there are really unpopulated
places in the world.
Like Finland. You have flown here a lot. Think.
Really, all the pilots are not flying in the Great Britain!!!
(which is a very little put populated - island somewhere).
For example Me, after not-so-succesfull landing to any remote private
strip here with my monowheel.
To my home strips, where there are people available from hundreds of
meters. They just look, maybe!!!
Raimo has left his aircraft there, and same time I am loosing maybe my
life! In that case, ELT were superb.
So far, I have had about 600 landings with my Mono, and still one prop
(AirMaster).
David, Im pretty sure You get it!
Go on! I know you can have your burst!
_Or, maybe you need a real FinnishSauna to get out your real Europa Mind?_
***
About me /my status:
- my Europa OH-XRT is still not flyable but will be during early 2018 *
- my Lamco OH-U666 (a bushplane) is flyable now finally after my crash
one year ago
- my very Beloved Cesna OH-CVK (which I owned 1996-2012) is here back again.
- my Antonov AN-2 HA-MDO is in Sweden, but it will be soon here.
David,
_pls fly here duging The 2018 - the cows are away!
_Just land EFRT 12/30 or 03/21 if you like so.
__
Raimo
OH-XRT
Finland
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davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk kirjoitti 1.11.2017 klo 20:58:
>
> Raimo, It's great to hear from you again! hope that your engine woes
> are sorted and that we can look forward to more accounts of your
> fascinating flying exploits.
>
> Although there is always great sense in what you say, in this
> context I would take a slightly different approach. I would say there
> are two sorts of 'typical' - firstly the sort of accident where you
> walk away from it and don't need much in the way of help - or if you
> do then you are in a state to work your mobile, or your PLB assuming
> you have landed in orderly fashion either in mid ocean or in a remote
> part of Finland (and there is plenty of that!). The other sort of
> typical is sadly the sort of accident you do not walk away from and
> very few of those are survived with or without an ELT. Sadly some 2%
> of us (i.e. GA pilots in general) die from stall/spin accidents,
> entirely unsurviveable. My plea would be for folk to address that
> possibility more seriously. Prevention is the answer, not an ELT to
> get help more quickly after the event. There are suggestions of how
> you can address this issue on the (beautiful new) club website in the
> 'Flying' section.
>
> Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ
>
> On 2017-11-01 18:29, Raimo Toivio wrote:
>
>> Hi Jon,
>>
>> I do agree.
>>
>> One more thing: PLB must be launched manually, but ELT should work
>> automatically after your critical impact.
>>
>> Its easy to imagine a situation where you have no time to switch on
>> your PLB or you even forget to do it during your possible more or
>> less panic situation
>>
>> (when trying to survive out from your disaster).
>>
>> Whats a typical accident? Its during take off or landing. If shit
>> happens then, PLB is useless!
>>
>> PLB is very nice when you happen to lose your engine in the high up
>> altitude, or have made a succesfull emergency landing to the remote
>>
>> (thats potential for me, here in Finland, which is practically empty
>> [wolves will not call emergency, they just eat you]).
>>
>> I love my PLB also because I fly regularly over the sea between
>> Finland and Sweden. That flight is 1 hour over open seawater without
>> islands.
>>
>> Of course I fly high up using typically my very favourite FL69
>> (Swedish female ATC love my request to use it and thats why I have
>> no Turbo),
>>
>> but in the case /of silence/ with my best glide ratio (1:17, w
>> featherable VSuperb AirMaster), I am able to glide say practically
>> about 35 km in theory.
>>
>> So, there is still a cap almost 200 km = 45 min when its easy to
>> monitor your engine and listen strange sounds...
>>
>> (in a real life I put my autopilot on and start to listen hi-fi music
>> through my HS800 via B&O and usually sleep say half an hour).
>>
>> I would like to say:
>>
>> ELT is essential and PLB is a nice extra...
>>
>> (isnt it strange that what older you are, that more you are thinking
>> things like that, should be vice versa...)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Raimo
>> Finland
>> OH-XRT
>> The fastest Europa ever build
>> (and only 4-seater)
>>
>> italianjon kirjoitti 1.11.2017 klo 17:30:
>>>
>>> Just to throw my thoughts on the ELT/PLB argument, as I have been debating
for a while on whether to get one. This information came from a VERY reliable
source, someone who is involved in the SAR industry.
>>>
>>> For the record I had just a PLB, but I now have both.
>>>
>>> With an ELT action will always be taken, and it will be immediate, as they
have all information readily available through the registration authorities. On
a PLB, action will only be taken once it is a confirmed emergency.
>>>
>>> I have to admit I thought my leg was being pulled until I saw the forms. On
the ELT registration form that I completed, I only completed my details, and
that was it. WIth the PLB form I had to complete the contact details of three
additional people who know my movements and can be contacted in the event that
the PLB is activated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=474097#474097
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