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Subject: AW: Europa-List: Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe
From: A. Buess Aviatik <ykibuess@bluewin.ch>
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 18:27:59
As always Switzerland is a special case in the european system: We are a 
member of the Schengen system, but not member of the EU. That means you 
have to enter Switzerland via a customs airfield. No hassle, you are 
very welcome!


Regards, Alfred

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Alfred Buess

Europa XS HB-YKI, Ercoupe 415-E N94804


Von: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] Im Auftrag von 
davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2017 17:08
An: europa-list@matronics.com
Betreff: Re: Europa-List: Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe


Carl, You may have had most of the answers you need already, but my 
replies would be:

1. RT is identical the world over for formal ATC services The only 
exception to that would be that a very few French  airfields have a 
published policy of French only, and you need fairly fluent French for 
those. However 95%+ (?) and  none of the customs airfields are like that 
so it is most unlikely you will stumble on such an airfield in error. 
Full details of all french airfields, complete with plates are available 
on the SIA website (see the club website Flying abroad section) so don't 
rely on some out of date French Pooleys equivalent!

2. Yes

3. Yes, but once you have landed at one you can carry on throughout 
Shengen at any airfield until you come to leave Schengen when you should 
again use a customs airfield. Several trips within last year confirm 
this. Again consult SIA for up to date info.

4. No only initial port of entry into Schengen. You could incidentally 
fly right across France without landing and clear customs in Germany or 
wherever.

5. English rules apply: You need an FPL if crossing an IFR boundary, or 
if crossing dangerous terrain, like the Alps. The occasional east europe 
country may still require one for any flight but certainly not France or 
Germany. You will find that most  French and German airfields of any 
consequence will have computer systems or phone in systems where it is 
easy , and quick so doing it as you go along is straightforward.

     Currently skiing but happy to talk over any uncertainties when I 
return. You will find my number in the club mag

Regards David Joyce, trips coordinator.


On 2017-02-03 21:44, carlp101 wrote:

<mailto:cparkinson@cisc-uk.com> >

Well. With or without other Europa pilots I'm planning to come.

I've only familiar with flying in the UK. I have lots of questions. I 
hope you don't mind.

1. Are there any differences in RT procedures in other counties? 
2. Is the handover procedure between counties in Europe the same as 
between the UK and France?
3. I assume I have to land at a customs in France before continuing. Is 
that correct?
4. Do I have to land at customs in each country?
5. How many flight plans do I need to file - one end-to-end plan or one 
per country?

Perhaps it would be better to chat on the phone? If you email me 
privately I can send you my contact details.

All the best.
Carl


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