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RE: Europa-List: Getting the trim motor out

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Getting the trim motor out
From: Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:52:17
Hi! Will

I had a Ray Allen Relay deck fail on a dual trim control system. I had a 
problem which wouldn=99t reverse the trim until it reached fully 
trimmed nose up mode . Once trim up had been engaged it would not 
reverse until the motor reached its full limit , then it would reverse. 
I may add that this scenario was very hairy since the stick loads were 
so intense it needed the passenger to assist.  In the end I used to 
allow it to go momentarily fully up without restraint , but it took some 
=9Cguts=9D to allow that . You would not land the aircraft 
with full trim up loads held on the control stick.( not withstanding the 
loads encountered would test the controls to the limit!)

I had this issue twice and Ray Allen on both occasions claimed it to be 
a wiring installation issue ......not their motor or Relay deck. On the 
third occasion , I discovered that they had introduced a MK II relay 
deck  and on discussion with them they advised that they had discovered 
an inbuilt fault in the Mark I version of the deck in that as soon as 
the fault was reversed it hid the fault of failure to reverse. I had to 
ask them ......they did not volunteer the information and twice actually 
insisted it was a fault in my wiring 

I changed the relay deck for the Mark II supplied at a discount and have 
had no problem since.  However not before having 
=9Cpulled=9D the motor twice on wasted errands!

I had on original build predicted the necessity to remove the trim motor 
and arranged it=99s mounting with =9C home brewed=9D 
stiff nuts held in place specially for such a =9Cjiggery 
pokery=9D issue . So you will get to change the motor with great 
difficulty !  Be well advised to check out every last detail of motor 
and relay deck and even change the MKI deck for a MK II as a matter of 
course prior to =9Cdigging=9D the motor out !

Regards

Bob Harrison G-PTAG . 


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William 
Daniell
Sent: 13 March 2016 19:14
Subject: Europa-List: Getting the trim motor out


Somewhat to my dismay, (tho i dare say it would have been a little more 
dismaying in flight) I have discovered loose connection to the trim.   I 
suspect the connection twixt 5 core wire and trim motor.

I did thoroughly check it before i put the top on.

I think I  need to get the trim motor out as I cant see a way of getting 
to it to check the wires.

Is there a trick to this?

Thanks Will



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