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> 1. 12:22 PM - Re: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
> (Richard
Collings)
> 2. 12:38 PM - FWF Seal (spcialeffects)
> 3. 01:14 PM - Re: FWF Seal (Alan Burrill)
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> From: "Richard Collings" <rcollings@talktalk.net>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
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> Hi Gilles & Brian
> Watching your email thread I would like to add my 2 pennies, I was aware
> that there was a problem with exhaust gasses entering the cabin through the
> flap slots on each side of the fuselage so I made a bulk head from the rear
> of the baggage bay floor to the floor of the aircraft [in 2 pieces] I am
> going to seal them air tight with foam rubber so that under the baggage bay
> is air tight to the cabin.
> I have had only one problem associated with engine smells from the start and
> that is a smell of fuel when I switch on the electric fuel pump. Fuel
> pressure remain the same with fuel pump no or off. No leaks found so far its
> very strange.
> Regards
> Richard
> G-CGZV Tri-gear 912ul 115hrs
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Davies
> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2015 10:46 AM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
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> Hi Gilles,
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> I think leather bellows is probably the way to go. I have been chasing
> higher than normal CO levels on my aircraft, hence the research into
> airflows from the engine compartment. I have been looking at bellows around
> the pitch tube behind the baggage bay to close off the airflow through the
> flap slots and forward through the tunnel. I am ,however, struggling to
> understand why I should have a problem on my aircraft when others are not
> reporting problems.
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> The trouble with measuring CO with a digital sensor is that once you know
> the reading you feel you should do something about it, even if it is within
> limits. I am getting 11 - 20 ppm in cruise and up to 35ppm on approach with
> the flaps down, with a normal limit of 50ppm for GA aircraft but zero would
> be better!
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> Regards
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> Brian
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GTH
> Sent: 12 May 2015 23:31
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Smell of petrol in the cocpit just after takeoff
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> Brian,
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> Thank you for the information.
>> I know it is good aero practice to have a gas tight FWL but on the
>> Europa, with rudder cables passing through it, it is actually impossible
> to achieve.
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> I would have thought that it could be easily addressed with leather bellows,
> like on vintage aircraft.
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>> Also the external airflow from the engine area can attach to the lower
>> fuselage and enter the flap slots.
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> This one beats me, but when there is a will there is a way...
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> Best regards,
> Gilles
> http://contrails.free.fr
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> Subject: Europa-List: FWF Seal
> From: "spcialeffects" <spcialeffects@aol.com>
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> Hi all. Could someone please tell me what this sealing material is called and
possibly
> where i might buy some, Many thanks
> http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=79612
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442108#442108
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> From: Alan Burrill <alanb@dpy01.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FWF Seal
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> Looks like;
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> Silicone Baffle Seal
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> here: http://www.lasaero.com/site/products/article?id=T01VKIAZ1
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> alan
> On 14 May 2015, at 20:37, spcialeffects <spcialeffects@aol.com> wrote:
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>> Hi all. Could someone please tell me what this sealing material is
> called and possibly where i might buy some, Many thanks
>> http://www.europaowners.org/main.php?g2_itemId=79612
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442108#442108
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