Fred, Kevin,
I would certainly like to if some other time becomes an option, but I am not
available
Aug 15-26,
Bill McClellan
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kevin Klinefelter <klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com>
>Sent: Aug 4, 2013 1:07 PM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Fwd: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>
>How bout it folks, anybody else up for getting together in OR?
>Kevin
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>> Date: August 4, 2013, 1:57:05 PM MDT
>> To: Kevin Klinefelter <klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>>
>> terrific Kevin...would you mind sending your msg to the europa-list so others
know that people have started to sign up?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
>>
>>> I can make it on Friday the 16th. Sounds like fun. I plan to camp.
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 8:16 AM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have some "must-make" commitments on Aug 13 & 14th...I'm clear 15th thru
18th...
>>>>
>>>> F.
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2013, at 5:39 AM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have some time off from my job next week August 12-18. Any chance y'all
would want to get together next week?
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 3:24 PM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ...hey c'mon...you're the guy who touted Oregon...is there no camping @
McMinnville?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 12:43 PM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HaHa, sure. You can announce it if you would like. I'll stay in the
>>>>>>> eves.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is Transient Parking at the McMinnville airport (KMMV), and
>>>>>>> Evergreen
>>>>>>> Museum is just next door, across the road.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Twin Oaks is a bit tricky, due to mountains on one side. I have never
>>>>>>> flown
>>>>>>> in there, except as a passenger. I thought you could only land in one
>>>>>>> direction, but heard from someone that their CFI taught them to fly out
in
>>>>>>> the opposite direction once. I just don't know. One would need to read
the
>>>>>>> airport information carefully before landing there, I guess is the
>>>>>>> message.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> McMinnville has two runways and I've never noticed any major
>>>>>>> obstructions
>>>>>>> while doing touch and go's there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It would be nice to see Ms. Europa, Fred. From your pics, it looks like
she
>>>>>>> is pretty well on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Fred Klein [mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 10:28 AM
>>>>>>> To: Greg Fuchs
>>>>>>> Cc: 'Kevin Klinefelter'; 'h&jeuropa Heather Butcher'
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great work Greg...sounds like a number of excellent
>>>>>>> possibilitiies...shall
>>>>>>> we announce this as the:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DOTH - McMinnville - 2013 ???
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...just to see who bites?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (If there's a crowd, I'll trailer in Ms. Europa, my project, [as yet]
>>>>>>> non-flying)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From your description, it's not clear whether or not one can land at
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> museum...(I'm presuming it's located on an airfield)...?...but both Twin
>>>>>>> Oaks and Sportsman's sound fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:57 AM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK, (per Fred's message),
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Optimal season for flying in this area is now (this time of year). We
>>>>>>>> generally have at least a couple months with almost no measurable
>>>>>>>> rainfall, starting after the 4th of July.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am no connoisseur, but this is a little bit about the area.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The Museum is the 'Evergreen Aviation and Space Museum', located in
>>>>>>>> McMinnville, OR.
>>>>>>>> Link:
>>>>>>>> http://www.evergreenmuseum.org/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Some personal reviews for the Museum:
>>>>>>>> http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g51963-d273891-Reviews-Ev
>>>>>>>> ergree n_Aviation_Space_Museum-McMinnville_Oregon.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> EAA: The biggest chapter that I know of is EAA 105, located at Twin
>>>>>>>> Oaks, although there is a small one based out of McMinnville.
>>>>>>>> Twin Oaks has a breakfast every First Saturday of the month, and my
>>>>>>>> next-door hangar buddy goes there a lot. That is where the RV folks
>>>>>>>> are based, and Dick Vansgrunsven himself is based there. All are
>>>>>>>> welcome to the pancake breakfast.
>>>>>>>> http://twinoaksairpark.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Although a member of EAA, I am not familiar with all the general
>>>>>>>> services available through the chapters.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Closest airport to Evergreen is McMinnville. Oddly, I cannot find a
>>>>>>>> website for it (if someone finds it, let me know), so here is an
>>>>>>>> airnav:
>>>>>>>> http://www.airnav.com/airport/KMMV
>>>>>>>> Facilities: Not very familiar, but there is a small area for camping,
>>>>>>>> but I am told it will not handle many people. You can get a pictorial
>>>>>>>> of it with Google Map.
>>>>>>>> Hotels and restaurants: There is supposedly one hotel and a McDonalds
>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>>> 1.3 miles, but the city is about 2.5 miles away for other goodies.
>>>>>>>> Pretty far for walking. Not sure about car facilities, would have to
>>>>>>>> call.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> One of the next closest is Sportsman Airpark, located in Newberg, OR
>>>>>>>> (about 10 miles from museum), owned and operated by Jerry and Lessie
>>>>>>>> Dale and their sons Jason and Griffin. Once upon a time, they were a
>>>>>>>> Piper dealership. I am based here. Access to major facilities in town
>>>>>>>> is about 0.5 miles. As many hotels, restaurants and bars one would
>>>>>>>> want, I would think...including many bar/grill combo's such as
>>>>>>>> Cooperstown. There is a hardware store as well, if the need arises. It
>>>>>>> seems that I am there almost every day.
>>>>>>>> I talked to the FBO yesterday, and confirmed they allow camping for
>>>>>>> fly-ins.
>>>>>>>> Avgas and JetA is available. Overnight fee is $5. For transportation,
>>>>>>>> there is a Mercedes station wagon available for close-area day use,
>>>>>>>> free use except for cost of gas replacement only. They are a launch
>>>>>>>> site for Vista Balloons at the South end of the Airport. The burners
>>>>>>>> make some noise, but they are generally up and out of sound range
>>>>>>>> within
>>>>>>> about a half an hour.
>>>>>>>> Usually four or five balloons launch once a day, right at sun-up. It
>>>>>>>> really is quite a sight.
>>>>>>>> http://www.sportsmanairpark.com/
>>>>>>>> Nearby fun:
>>>>>>>> Champed State Park with biking and year-round camping
>>>>>>>> http://www.champoeg.org/ Also, this area is very famous for its Grape
>>>>>>>> yards and wine-tasting, for those that want to try that out.
>>>>>>>> There is an old-style drive-in movie theatre in Newberg as well...and
>>>>>>>> well within walking distance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, that is a quick reconnoitering of the area, anyway. I don't
>>>>>>>> think that answers all questions, so let me know if there are any more.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Fred Klein [mailto:fklein@orcasonline.com]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 9:24 AM
>>>>>>>> To: Greg Fuchs
>>>>>>>> Cc: Kevin Klinefelter; h&jeuropa Heather Butcher
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: OR Fly In
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So Greg...can you do a quick reconnoitering of the area and advise re:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - cooperation, support, and enthusiasm of local EAA chapter?...and the
>>>>>>>> museum staff?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - availability of on-site camping and nearby accommodations?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - optimal season weather-wise?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> F.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 AM, Greg Fuchs wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Fantastic idea. I believe they have an SR-71 to gawk at too, among
>>>>>>>>> other things.
>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hey! That sounds good Fred.
>>>>>>>>>> Kevin
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --> <fklein@orcasonline.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We could meet under one of the wings of the Spruce Goose at
>>>>>>>>>> McMinnville!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thumbs up!
>>>>>>>>>>> Greg - OREGON
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we should gather out west sometime! Would anyone be
>>>>>>> interested?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kevin in CA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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