William, I have met lots of buzzards and the occasional
peregrine in thermals in my gliding days, when I would
have been doing something like 50 kts, and they have
generally turned and dived without me needing to change my
course. However approaching a large bird at 130kts is a
different thing- I don't think their reflexes are geared
to other aerial things doing hat sort of speed, and feel
that they are likely to go downwards and that if I am
going to have a bird strike the underside of the plane is
the best place for it. They are also most unlikely to ne
able to match my climb rate. The few very large
vultures/eagles I have met in Spain have gone serenely on
their way without blinking, clearly assuming that every
thing else in the sky would naturally get out of heir way!
Regards, David Joyce
"William Daniell" <wdaniell@etb.net.co> wrote:
> In Colombia you find a lot of these large Sh** hawks and
>often very high.
>
>
>
> The rule that we always follow is to let them get out of
>your way they fly
> better than you and they don't have noisy engines so
>they can hear you and
> are perfectly capable of working out where you are
>going. If you start to
> try and dodge them you end up in situation similar to
>that with an oncoming
> pedestrian when you both go one way and then both go the
>other.
>
>
>
> will
>
>
>
>From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On
>Behalf Of John Wigney
> Sent: 17 June, 2012 08:51
> To: David Joyce; Europa-List
> Subject: Europa-List: Large birds?
>
>
>
> Hi David,
>
> I can endorse your conclusion regarding large birds. In
>my part of the
> world, it is common to find large hawks
> <https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1472&bih=718&q=r
> ed+tailed+hawk&gbv=2&oq=red+tailed+hawk&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=img.12...0.0.1.3
> 753.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0.ElDEdYdO_uE> and
>vultures
> <https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1472&bih=718&q=b
> lack+vulture&gbv=2&oq=black+vu&aq=0&aqi=g10&aql=&gs_l=img.1.0.0l10.2011.5991
> .0.7051.8.7.0.1.1.0.100.525.6j1.7.0...0.0._742EBEmjg8>
> circling in thermals
> up to many thousands of feet. I have learned never to
>fly under these birds
> as they will close their wings and drop when they see a
>plane nearby. I
> always fly round them or pull over them.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> N262WF, mono XS, 912S
> Mooresville, North Carolina
>
>
>
> ORIGINAL MESSAGE
> .... Now when confronted with a large bird looking as
>though
> it is coming through the screen I reckon the smart move
>is
> to pull up, as birds are likely to dive in a panic
> situation as their only means of rapidly gaining speed
>to
> avoid a threat, but when it first happened I hesitated a
> bit before turning right, wondering whether the bird
>knew
> the rules of the air!
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