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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru and alternative engines
From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 17:00:18
Graham, you are as succinct as always.  Wish I could be.

Jabiru comments:
Disclaimer.  As many of you know, I have a love/hate relationship with 
every component attached to an aircraft.  That said:

After considerable work we have tamed (sort of) the older Jabiru 3300 
but it is not a plug and play engine installation in a Europa.
Problems/Solutions:
Cooling:
The lunch boxes on top do not work well.  We extended the height, 
changed all the baffling and modified both the Andy Sylvest and standard 
Jabiru cowl.  Opening the inlets to get about a 4-5 inch opening 
diameter for inlet air minimum of 120-150 sq inches.  Exit air has to be 
augmented with the addition of a cowl flap style ramp dropping 4-5 
inches below the cowl bottom to get enough draw.  To allow sufficient 
cooling during climb exit air should be about 400 square inches.   Move 
the inlets out to get as much prop blast for ground cooling as possible 
and consider a movable cowl flap on the bottom air exit...

Oil cooler.  Put a real oil cooler on your jab like the new install 
manual.  It needs it.  A $32 JC Whitney cheap oil cooler is not 
sufficient.  The oil cooler must be ducted for proper cowl operation as 
well as proper oil cooler performance.

Carb heat.  The extra draw of the cowl bottom causes a significant 
change in the air filter box pressures which upsets the Bing carby 
momentarily.  This can actually kill the engine when entering the 
pattern for landing.  Passengers don't like when the whirly thing up 
front stops.  I suggest a larger heat muff to improve the flow to the 
airbox.

Intake manifold leaks.  The Bing carby is a weak link in the Jab.  
Tuning the long intake manifold pipes, ensuring they are sealed can be a 
chore and please do check your intake manifolds.  Any leak makes for a 
poor fuel air mixture.  If ever an engine cries out for fuel injection 
it is the Jab.
The long and uneven length of tubes and the spider manifold carb 
attachment is nice machining but not conducive to even fuel air mixture 
distribution with the Bing carburetor metering system.  Another part of 
the cooling problems is the fuel distribution spider does not allow for 
uniform cylinder inlet flow.  EGT and CHT helps diagnose this as a 
cooling airflow or mixture problem.

Carb.  Jabiru has gone through many jet and needle combinations and are 
pretty close now, but the fuel consumption of a Jab 3300 is a bit 
thirsty (6-6.4 per hour at 2400 (but that is 90 Kts and 7.5-8.5 at 2700 
80% power and 127 Kts)) in comparison to other engines of similar power. 


Prop,  The US distributor recommends the two blade wood Sensenich 62 
inch prop.  The good folks at Sensenich have a very good ground 
adjustable blade for a two blade prop for the 3300.  Airmaster is now 
using this blade on the Airmaster AP420 for the Jab 3300.  The AP420 is 
working fine on one Europa in Australia.  Longer props give the engine 
fits.  The torque curve of the jab (which falls off after 2700 RPM) 
causes the operator to add throttle to try to absorb the torque, but the 
engine just doesn't have it to deliver.  So the pilot is generating more 
heat for no more performance.  Max recommended diameter is 64 inches.
The reason for the shorter prop is the thickness and length of the tip 
starts going above .86 Mach and it really stars to wear the blade and 
makes that horribly loud whacking sound in flight.  The tip drag really 
increases above .85M and the drag goes way up and starts vibrations.  So 
Sensenich has swept the tip on their fixed and ground adjustable props 
for the Jab to improve the high speed/rpm prop characteristics, but the 
strength of the tip means it must be fairly fat, which makes the Mach 
crit fairly low.

Longevity:
In the older Jab engines, we have seen extensive pitting in the cylinder 
walls from corrosion.  Even at 3 months of winter non flying, consider 
fogging the cylinders to prevent this or spin it over every week during 
winter.
Cylinder warping:  Uneven cooling causes the cylinders to warp a bit.  
This is easily found by a differential cylinder pressure check.  Expect 
this warping to cause a broken ring or two and some scoring in the 
cylinder.  The cylinders cannot be machined according to the US 
distributor and the Jabiru maintenance manual procedures.  $750 each 
plus you have to remove the opposite cylinder to remove the one which 
increases maintenance costs.  The front two cylinders can cost you $3000 
in parts and labor.  I'm just not impressed that the Jabiru can go 500 
hours without high maintenance costs.

Calibrate the EGT and CHT with a hand held calibrated instruments.  You 
will need these to be accurate for engine tuning, and baffle tweaking.  
You will be rewarded afterwards.

What I like:
Nice machining.  Starts well and runs on AV gas and AV oil.  Cheap price 
for the power.
The manufacturer has incorporated hydraulic lifters now and new fins for 
the cylinders so things are getting better.

What I dislike:  Torque curve makes a cruise prop a problem for descent 
takeoff performance.  Setting the prop for cruise at about 2400 static 
on the ground causes a long and lugging engine takeoff.  The horsepower 
falls off to 100 or less and it shows with two on board on a hot day.  
Top speed for  a trigear seems to stop at about 135.  The engine hits  
redline very quick in a dive.  It really needs a constant speed prop.

The engine maintenance is not as it was originally sold.  The cylinders 
cannot be maintained, the heads are basic throw away as are the 
cylinders.  Corrosion is a problem with the choice of metals.  In my 
opinion, the cylinders need to be of thicker material for more 
stability.

Cooling fins on the cylinders are inadequate.  They need to be thinner 
and more of them.  The firewall forward packages are pretty deficient 
but are improving over time.

The heads are square which makes training the airflow around the 
cylinder especially the bottom very tough.  But there is not enough room 
to make them round.  Ah compromises.

So, can you fix it?  Yes.
Is it worth it?  You decide.  I don't want to do it again.

An aftermarket firm is making a water cooled heads, but at the cost and 
installation, just buy a Rotax as the cost will be similar.

I just want a plug and play firewall forward, and I get it more so with 
the Rotax 912S.  Speeds of the 912S vs Jab 3300 at cruise are virtually 
the same, so I think I'll go with the Rotax lower fuel consumption..

As for alternative engines:
Having experimented with fuel injection on the Rotax 914 I can say if 
you love to tinker and don't mind years of work, go for it.
Car engines belong in cars.  Subaru, Honda and Mercedes make the finest 
engines for high performance autos.

However, an aircraft engine is more akin to a marine engine.  Aircraft 
fly on torque not just horsepower.  Aircraft require high torque and 
high power to weight ratios.  .5 is a good power to weight ratio to 
start, and torque should be about double the HP or the engine needs a 
gearbox.  The reliability needs to be unquestioned.  I really prefer the 
whirly thing up front work all the time.

The day they make a car that can be started, warmed up for 15 minutes 
and then pull a 3000 pound trailer on to the road and floor it for 15 to 
30 minutes, then retard the throttle about 400 RPM and hold 80 mph for 
hours, and do it daily for 80,000 miles, I'll put it on an airplane.

Propellers are a Zen art.  I have numerous articles, programs etc. for 
determining blade efficiencies, but finding someone to build a reliable 
blade, that holds up well and meets the speed range of 50 knot takeoff 
and 180 knot max speed, on 100 HP forget it.  The manufacturing 
technology at a reasonable cost is just not out there.  So we compromise 
on twist, area, and cost.  The warp drive is OK, as is the Sensenich.  
Constant Speed propeller manufacturers make many hubs that make their 
own blades or cover a variety of blade manufacturers, but what works 
every time in all conditions falls to only a couple manufacturers and we 
have all posted comments on these.

As far as putting more than 120 horses on the Europa I don't like it as 
the mounts are not really strong enough for the added weight and power 
without modification.  The Europa needs longer landing gear to get the 
prop clearance for the additional power absorption.

I have found that our little Europa is ideally suited for the 100-120 HP 
engine series that are under 200 pounds total with accessories.  Keep 
the airframe down to about 850-900 pounds empty and this is a hell of an 
airplane.  Add a constant speed prop and it is even better.  So why not 
put a simple to install engine on it and make it easy to service.

I prefer to spend my time making the wiring, ducting and engine easy to 
remove, so some 5 years later in one weekend, I can hoist the engine off 
and change all the hoses, clean and service everything, change the 
mounts and put it back on.  Then hook up the new fuel hoses and plug the 
quick disconnect plugs into the firewall and start it up.

My desire is to get in the air reliably.  The decision to experiment 
with a one off engine project that is even $10,000 cheaper on the front 
is not worth it as I would rather see myself and my clients fly rather 
than tinker and suffer engineering setbacks in silence or lament they 
didn't get what they wanted in their airplane.

I love to tinker, and am always amazed at the superb craftsmanship of 
some of our builders and alternative engine and system manufactures, and 
some day they will spend the countless hours necessary to get it all 
right.  I'll wait for them to make an easy to install firewall forward 
package and then I'll recommend it.

Keep it simple, keep it light, keep it reliable and you will fly sooner.

Just my opinion.

Bud Yerly, 
N12AY, Classic tri gear,  914, Airmaster, 904 pounds 
Custom Flight Creations Inc.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: GRAHAM SINGLETON<mailto:grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 4:46 AM
  Subject: Europa-List: Jabiru


  Some of you might remember I said I only knew of one successful Jab6 
installation? Well I had an interesting conversation with 
  a guy who's been happy with his for a few years now. Sensenich 2 blade 
prop, 3 blades are not ideal on a Jab6 because of 
  crank resonance issues which I hadn't heard about. There isn't much 
useful info about Jabs although must admit I don't look far.


  I wonder what the Mach no of the prop tips at 150 knots and 3300 rpm? 
Must be going super critical, around .65 ish?
  With a wooden prop the blades need to be thicker and that isn't good 
for high speed. Are Sensenich using super critical sections?
  Graham


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