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From: Bud Yerly <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 17:18:32

Will,
Max prop diameter is still 64 inches recommended.  This is based on the 
prop clearance of course.  In the tri gear clearances are based on 
spring or bungee with the by the book cable stop dimensions per the 
build manual.  This leaves nominally 10-11 inches from the prop tip to 
the ground (aircraft unloaded, nose tire inflated at 35 psi. and the CG 
at 60 inches) in most of my aircraft.  At full deflection of the gear at 
full gross weight, this gives 7-8 inches of clearance.  (Yours may be 
different due to main gear installation.)

FAA requirements for minimum propeller clearance:
  Sec. 25.925

  Propeller clearance.

  Unless smaller clearances are substantiated, propeller clearances with 
the
  airplane at maximum weight, with the most adverse center of gravity, 
and with
  the propeller in the most adverse pitch position, may not be less than 
the 
  following:
  (a) Ground clearance. There must be a clearance of at least seven 
inches 
  (for each airplane with nose wheel landing gear) or nine inches (for 
each 
  airplane with tail wheel landing gear) between each propeller and the 
ground 
  with landing gear statically deflected and in the level takeoff, or 
taxiing attitude, 
  whichever is most critical. In addition, there must be positive 
clearance 
  between the propeller and the ground when in the level takeoff 
attitude 
  with the critical [tire(s)] completely deflated and the corresponding 
landing 
  gear strut bottomed.


Europa nominal clearances:
If installed by the book at 2 inches (full cable extension), crossed 
properly so the cable cannot slip off, with a deflated nose gear tire, 
there is at least 4 inches of clearance on my new builds putting a full 
300 pounds on the front of the engine.  That will keep you from mowing 
the grass and or plowing a furrow with your 64 inch propeller if the 
nose gear tire fails on a rough landing or rough strip.

12 AY flew with the gear leg bolted solid in an attempt to install a 
longer prop.  I don't recommend it.  It's a bit harsh on a rough strip 
so to prevent fatigue I installed the springs shortly thereafter and 
shortened my cable stop to allow a total of 1 inch of movement until 
contact and a bit more on full extension. 

Longer answer  on install and extended life operations notes:

On installation, Chapter 29T says to pull the gear leg up (without 
springs or bungee) and swag the cable at two inches from the stop to the 
leg.  I clamp (using a bolt type cable clamp) the cable at that distance 
with the gear leg pulled to check full tension on the cable.  When 
satisfied, I then swag the cable.  This gives 8 inches clearance as 
stated above.    

In the field, because the spring or bungee is attached normally, I use 
the one inch (two fingers) method to check if I need to re-swag the 
cable because of poor installation or cable stretch.  I find the cable 
easy to pull down firmly from under the aircraft and check the distance. 
 To check the springs I place my full body weight (180 lbs.) at the hub 
to deflect the springs the full amount for a quick check.  When doing 
maintenance on other aircraft I have found that the cable will stretch a 
bit more than new which puts more strain on the springs.  Occasionally I 
have seen on trigears which have operated extensively on grass, and the 
cable stop either was installed improperly or it had loosened and had 
not worked as advertised (it slipped off the lower leg) and this caused 
the springs to become weaker under severe grass strip operations.  
(Thirty pounds at the hub caused the springs to deflect which is 
unacceptable.)  It is not fun to cut those springs off and replace them 
because they no longer hold the nose gear firmly on the stop.  So it was 
a personal decision to go tighter than looser on the cable stop to 
prevent this from happening.  


Regards,

Bud Yerly
Europa Tech Support
813 244-8354


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: William Daniell<mailto:wdaniell@etb.net.co> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 8:34 AM
  Subject: Europa-List: 


  I am sure that this has been posted many time but to avoid having to 
hunt through the archives - what is the max prop diameter for a Trigear?

  Will

   

   


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