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RE: Europa-List: Re: Toe vs Finger Brakes

Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Toe vs Finger Brakes
From: G-IANI <giani@ntlworld.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:29:40

Jurgen

As far as I can tell the advise from Max is correct.

You almost certainly have a finger brake conversion which consists of moving
the original foot cylinders.  So filling is as Max describes.  This was an
early "fix" to get finger brakes and not supported by Europa.  If filled and
bleed correctly they work but early versions had short levers (not enough
leverage) so breaking was limited.  The simple solution (longer levers)
works better but puts the handles very high (and they look unsightly).

The Europa design improved the position and leverage but unfortunately the
first master cylinder (Jama) proved to be very poor quality.  The final
redesign using Matco cylinders is much better.

A large part of the cost of the Europa kit is for the moulding etc used to
mount the master cylinder.  The Matco cylinders are reasonably priced at
about $90 each from Matco (but make sure you get the correct cylinders).  If
you are prepared to make you own mount and levers then you can convert at a
reasonable cost.

The documentation of Mod 65 shows the Jama setup and has not been updated.
The main manual CBM 33T (3) does give details of the Matco setup (but it
does contain some detailed error which have yet to be corrected).

I suggest you get your existing setup working properly before you decide on
an upgrade.  If you decide to upgrade I will be happy to supply details of
what others have done and the corrections for the Matco setup.


Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com 



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