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Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 02:34:45

Troy, my guess is that you had a mid-air with a Finnish mosquitoe.=C2- Th
at would be plenty to unbalance your prop. 


Jim Puglise 

A283 


----- Original Message -----


From: "Tim Ward" <ward.t@xtra.co.nz> 
Sent: Saturday, October 1, 2011 9:22:58 PM 
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Heavy In-flight Vibration Riddle 


Raimo, 
My guess it was some propeller imbalance caused by either a stone strike an
d a little dent in the propeller or sometime small left on one of the prope
llers, insect or bug 'finished off' on a propeller. 
If I am only allowed one guess it would be an insect come bug of some type 
---From Finland. 

Cheers, 

Tim 


Tim Ward 
12 Waiwetu Street 
Fendalton, 
Christchurch, =C2-8052 
New Zealand. 

ward.t@xtra.co.nz 

Ph 64 3 3515166 
Mob 0210640221 


On 2/10/2011, at 12:38 PM, Kevin Klinefelter <klinefelter.kevin@gmail.com> 
wrote: 

mail.com> 
> 
> I would guess something wrong with one carburator. 
> 
> Kevin 
> 
> On 10/1/11, Luc Michaud <rambug@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> Hi Raimo, 
>> 
>> Glad to see all turned for the best. 
>> 
>> As for the cause of your vibrations, I'm taking a guess for a leaf that

>> wrapped itself onto the leading edge of one of your prop's blades. 
>> 
>> I'd say it feels a bit high for it to be at 500' AGL but with a lot of w
ind, 
>> in autumn I guess it would be plausible. 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> 
>> Luc 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 21:44, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> wrote:

>> 
>>> =C2-All 
>>> 
>>> I have hope-so a nice riddle for you. 
>>> 
>>> Maybe all the answers are useful =93 let=C2=B4s collect them all:

>>> 
>>> *** 
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I took off from *a very* remote /small /windy (90 degrees 12

>>> knots and gusting MUCH) grass strip. Soon until well over the ground at

>>> altitude +500 feet with full power and 2nd fuel pump still on and gears
 up 
>>> I 
>>> felt suddenly let us say medium or more shake and vibration. My immedia
te 
>>> reaction was to go around and land immediately but abandoned because wi
nd 
>>> was so furious and I felt I cannot do that (a succesful landing). 
>>> 
>>> I decided to try to fly to the next possible sensible airfield EFHV whi
ch 
>>> was 10 minutes apart. 
>>> 
>>> Those minutes were long: I put my prob (Airmaster CS) to manual and dri
ved 
>>> it from fine to coarse, tried all the power settings and also a 2nd fue
l 
>>> filter. Finally I noticed that when prop was in a climb mode (in my cas
e 
>>> 5400 rpm /Rotax 912S) and MAP around 20 inches I got quite a comfortabl
e 
>>> flying mode and I headed straight home. My airspeed was w that selectio
n 
>>> about 110 knots but because of a strong headwind GS was only about 70

>>> knots 
>>> (wanted to be clearly over the ground at 3000 ft because it was well ov
er 
>>> sunset and totally dark, yesterday we got sunset around 1600 Zulutime a
nd 
>>> time was well over 1630 when flying). 
>>> 
>>> So, I pushed home one looooong hour. All the aerodynamics were well. I 
was 
>>> a bit worried my engine will separate or so. When trying to push more p
wr 
>>> it 
>>> was more vibra and when trying to pull less pwr same. I Followed a main

>>> highway and decided to land there if feeling so. Cars there with lights

>>> are 
>>> almost like a lighted runway... 
>>> 
>>> Finally landing to the EFTP flawlesly. 
>>> 
>>> *** 
>>> 
>>> Today we had a FHGP (Family Hangar Grill Party). I tried to check my pl
ane 
>>> as well as I can. I found something. Very small evidence but something

>>> anyway. I tried to fix it and had a test run. I elected to go to fly 
=93 hey 
>>> I 
>>> am a test pilot who else =93 and She was better than ever! 
>>> 
>>> I managed to do 2 touches and goes when C172 did one with same runway.

>>> 
>>> 140 knots during downwind makes me always happy. 
>>> 
>>> *** 
>>> 
>>> So =93 dear Ladies and Gentlemen =93 what was wrong? 
>>> 
>>> It would be nice and very life-useful to hear your opinions or guesses

>>> what 
>>> was wrong. 
>>> 
>>> *** 
>>> 
>>> The Rules: one single guess per person, please. 
>>> 
>>> The Prize: The Best Guess will get a Very Special Xmas Present from 
>>> Finland! 
>>> 
>>> *** 
>>> 
>>> I will let you know a solution after a week =93 be patient. 
>>> 
>>> Have a nice weekend and 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Raimo Toivio 
>>> 
>>> [image: Europa A2A-ala2OK] 
>>> 
>>> Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 
>>> 
>>> Updated flight hours /landings: 258,3 
>>> 
>>> 37500 Lempaala 
>>> FINLAND 
>>> 
>>> p +358-3-3753 777 
>>> f +358-3-3753 100 
>>> 
>>> toivio@fly.to 
>>> www.rwm.fi**** 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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