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Subject: RE: Europa-List: ELSA
From: Garry Stout <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:27:29
It is my understanding that any plane, if it meets the LSA criterion (speed,
stall, weight, complexity, etc.), can be flown "as an LSA", by a pilot
operating that plane with an LSA pilots license.


Garry Stout


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 6:46 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: ELSA


Fred,


That's a simple question.  If it ever was NOT an LSA, for any reason, it can
not be converted to an LSA.  Darn those rules, again...


And watch the terms.  An E-LSA is a class of aircraft where the kit
manufacturer defines the aircraft to be built and it MUST be built to
exactly to those specs, without deviation.


I believe what you are speaking of is an Amateur Built Experimental Aircraft
which simply conforms to the LSA specifications. 


Best regards,

Bob Borger

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On Jul 20, 2010, at 17:31, Fred Klein wrote:


On Jul 20, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bud Yerly wrote:


If you are a weight zealot, the XS should be eligible provided you have not
already registered it's gross weight as over 1320.  Darn those rules.


Bud,


Thanks for the comprehensive background on making an XS into an ELSA...I
take it that N12AY is Clive's airplane.


So here's a question:


...suppose one registers his XS mono w/ a FP prop and with a gross weight of
1320 as an experimental...then, later...takes it back to the shop, converts
it to a fixed tri or conventional gear (w/ dirty, grimy wheel pants), adds
the VGs to further slow it down, and does the requisite flight tests to show
the plane's within the LSA envelope...


Can it them become an ELSA? Can you recommend an FAA contact to run this by,
if you'd rather not speculate?


Thanks,


Fred


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