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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
From: Robert C Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:11:11

Raimo......IMHO the product which is being promoted is NOT for tubless tyres
utilizing a split wheel centre such an item does not exist because it is
impossible to seal the split centre. However there are products which when
inserted in the wheel/tyre which are in foam form and when exposed to air
they cure as a solid foam. To get the wheel centre out of this "mess" the
tyre would need to be cut from the rim.(not forgetting the weight factor.)
Regards
Bob Harrison

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
Sent: 21 September 2009 11:48
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre
Failures


I did not know there are different sealants for tubed ja tubeless tyres!
I have once made my day (or in fact my summer) with this stuff but this time
it did not help.
Maybe it was wrong stuff for tubeless tyre types ?

Raimo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:26 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre
Failures


<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>

SLIME is simply a tyre sealant which coats the inside of the tyre or inner 
tube with a viscous compound which seals any punctures that occur.

Its intended as an emergency repair but I have used it in my car for a few 
years. You have to be careful with car usage as it can throw out the wheel 
balance but in the Europa, it doesent matter if the wheel is out of balance.

Available for tubed or tubeless tyres it contains rubber granules which 
combine with the sealant to fill in any punctures - it will cope with nail 
size holes without problem. When there is a puncture it oozes from the hole 
leaving a fluorescent trail so that you know you have a problem.

Slime is a trade name but there are other makes available which are no doubt

just as effective.

I looked on their site and they have an European catalog so I assume it is 
available worldwide.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures


>
>
> Carl,
>
> Please explain further for our European friends who are probably not 
> aware of the product.
>
> Bob Borger
> Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
> http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
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>
>
> On Sep 18, 2009, at 6:35, Carl Pattinson wrote:
>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk
>> >
>>
>> Very easy solution - its called "slime". No more flat tyres.
>>
>> http://www.slime.com/index.php
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Raimo Toivio"  <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:56 AM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> Terve!
>>
>> I cannot accept this! It should not be a part of our life we live  (and 
>> fly) nowadays !
>> Landing with empty tyre could hurt seriously in the worst case  scenario.
>>
>> There must be something to prevent this happening so often or even 
>> better - never!
>>
>> I used also talcum powder and now the whole plane smells roses (I  asked 
>> powder with jet fuel smell but they have not!).
>>
>> Whats  your tire pressure, Paul? I have used always 2,2 PSI = 2,4 
>> kg/cm2 (thats about double they recommend).
>>
>> BTW it is easy to check: in my case 2,2 PSI equals 162 mm = 6,38"  from 
>> the asphalt surface to the lowest point of the main axle (port  side). 
>> That is a poor mans Mono Main Tyres Pressure Gauge.
>>
>> Raimo OH-XRT
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul McAllister" 
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 3:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono Inner Tyre Failures
>>
>>
>> <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com
>> >
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have this happen regularly.  I now just change them every 100 hours
>> and I never travel without my jacking block and a spare inner tube.  I
>> have tried inner tube talcum powder and different pressures with out
>> much improvement.
>>
>> The failure mode seems to be chafing on the side wall due to running
>> such  low pressure.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:02 AM, Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi> 
>> wrote:
>>> All
>>>
>>> I have lost without visible or known reason two innner tyres in my
>>> Monowheel.
>>>
>>> Loosing suddenly main gears air pressure is not a funny game and  did 
>>> not
>>> make my day actually.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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