Kevin posted some valuable thoughts on survival gear and where to (try to) land
in case of an engine failure, in response to my reference to the Norwegian CAA's
VFR-guide for flying in Norway.
Flying in most parts of Norway is over either mountains/rocks, forest or water
(lakes and fjords) - none or few farmers' fields in most places.
Since I have the trigear, I would be very afraid to try to set it down on water.
Would it not, because of the nose wheel, ditch in with the nose and stop like
hitting concrete? Is there a technique to use to have some chance of surviving?
To set the tail down first would be an option, perhaps, but the risk of
doing this too early and thus stalling would be great, would it not? And as
soon as the main wheels hit water, the aircraft would pitch nose down anyway?
Any encouraging statistics about ditching a nosewheeled aircraft?
The mono is probably much better in this respect - - - -.
Regards,
Svein K. Johnsen
LN-SKJ
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Sendt: 8. juli 2009 00:14
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Emne: Re: Europa-List: Flying to Norway
Thank you for the usefull guide to Sidsel & Svein Johnsen,it makes interesting
reading, I would sugest a change in the priority given in the survival kit and
sugest the survival suit be moved to the top of the list because in the winter
if you go in the water without, you will be gone in under 5 min, even nr the
Channel islands two winters ago two guys could not make the life raft due to
the cold,only one guy survived and the air sea rescue was on the scene within
30 min, also consider plastic baging mobile phones, and or a spare hand held
radio
inside your flotation suit..the ex RAF suits I have are 500 new and were
unused spares,,bought 35..Remember your options most of the time if you have an
engine failure will be into the trees (with rocks /mountains) or in to the water
which is very deep even nr the shoreline,remember to unlock your door/canopy
if you need to ditch.
Some of the most memorable flying I have done so far is from Norge to the UK
over
Christmas 2007.
(In a motorglider some times into 20knt headwinds G/S slower than wagons below)!
Kevin.
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> From: Sidsel & Svein Johnsen <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
> Subject: Europa-List: Flying to Norway
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Date: Tuesday, 7 July, 2009, 10:26 AM
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