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Re: Europa-List: rotax 912ULS Cooling Duct Question

Subject: Re: Europa-List: rotax 912ULS Cooling Duct Question
From: ALAN YERLY <budyerly@msn.com>
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 20:30:54
Sorry about that, I'll put it in to the next revision.  

Typically I use AN 3-3A or -4As depending on the shank requirement.

Here is the trick.  I sometimes use the AN-4 through the glycol cooler 
for the front hole support on the stbd side and will generally now put a 
nut plate in the aft side and the port side.   The oil cooler is narrow 
enough that if you choose wisely all will clear.  But make sure that the 
end of the bolt does not contact the coolers.  If you choose to put nuts 
and bolts on, make a thin 3/8 wrench and put the bolt in from the inside 
 There is just enough room to put a thin wrench in between the duct and 
cooler.  Because I am lazy I make a hole in the stbd bracket like in the 
port side to inspect my radiator hose. 

Why use nut plates?  Because I have a 914 and you have to pull the duct 
down to do almost anything on a turbo.  Besides, if the duct is easy to 
remove, it pays dividends when you have to do modifications or just want 
to clean up the engine for an inspection.  Same way for the footwells... 
 I put nut plates in everything.  Once the interior is in, I don't want 
to rip it out because I have the desire to fiddle with my engine.

Any other ideas?

Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
US Dealer
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: JR Gowing<mailto:jrgowing@bigpond.net.au> 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
  Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 6:45 PM
  Subject: Europa-List: rotax 912ULS Cooling Duct Question


  =EF=BB 
  To the list for a quick reply if anyone is listening  .......

  AN3--5A bolts hold the CD4's and CD5's to the footwells but there 
seems to be no guidance as to what holds the CD4' and 5's to the duct.

  So what have others used please?

  JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: jimpuglise@comcast.net<mailto:jimpuglise@comcast.net> 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
    Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:03 AM
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cowl Question?


    Jeff-


    The original cowling was designed for the Rotax, which was the 
engine of choice for the original airplane.  I also have a Jab. and have 
the Jab. FWF kit.  Trying to modify the original cowling to fit the Jab. 
would be a very extensive project.  By far, your best bet is going to be 
to use the Jab. kit.  For starters, the Jab. is a bit longer than the 
Rotax and you would need to account for that, as well as the vastly 
different cooling.  Your best sources will be Bud or John Lawton.  


    Jim Puglise A-283


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
    To: europa-list@matronics.com
    Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 5:35:12 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
    Subject: Europa-List: Cowl Question?


    Dear Europa List , 


    I have a question for the Europa List.  I have attached a picture of 
our original Europa Classic cowl (rotax) and naturally it doesn't mate 
up with the Jab3300.  With this in mind has anybody out there in 
Experimental Europa/Jabiru land modified the original cowl to fit the 
JAB?  I have pictures of John Lawton's Europa  N245E and I assume the 
cowling came from Jabiru USA ?  And of course looks fantastic, however, 
I find the original look of the Europa intriquing and full of "english" 
personality!  I like its big nose and hedgehog charm.


    I just thought I would check to see if it had been done.  It would 
take a great deal of modification to the air inlets and a quite a curvey 
nacelle  would have to be fabricated to make it work:  And of course 
this brings up issues with proper airflow and cooling of the equipment.  
So far with our current JAB we have had to wrestle with some cooling 
issues and it seems that cowl design can be a fairly prickly issue...a 
black art for me at least.


    Thanks for your time and consideration, Cheers!


    Jeff Paris #A012
    Peter Paris
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