So much food for thought (especially in the light of the report that
the Buffalo aircraft was on autopilot).
How much ice has anyone seen on a Europa in flight?
Also, in the spirit of "I learned about flying from that", let me add
a comment about a lesson learned many years ago when I was flying a
PA28 in marginal icing conditions. I was watching the leading edges
very carefully and they were slightly frosty but not getting any
worse so I thought I was OK. Suddenly there was a bit of a thump and
the aircraft started vibrating very severely. It was an iced up prop
which had shed ice from one side only and the only option was to
reduce power to idle and glide down hoping the other side would melt
before reaching zero feet - it did so, perhaps helped by my red face
radiating heat forwards. Another beer I owe to my guardian angel.
Willie
On 17 Feb 2009, at 14:31, Graham Singleton wrote:
> <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
>
> Hi All
>
> I know we don't often fly in icing conditiona but this is an
> excellent piece of research. Some of us (not me :-) ) fly large
> aircraft too. I think it's well worth the few minutes to watch this
> NASA video. Learn something every day.!
>
> Graham
>
>
> Posted by: "FlyingTiger" tiger@telis.net
> <mailto:tiger@telis.net?Subject=%20Re%3AWhat%20Caused%20CO3407%
> 20Crash%2E%2Ehmmm>
> flyingtiger05 <http://profiles.yahoo.com/flyingtiger05>
>
>
> Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:35 am (PST)
>
> The video I have added as a link is a lesson for everyone. This is
> fairly new information about stalls. I fly a variety of aircraft
> when they become available and believe me this is an eye opener.
>
> You think you know about stalls? Practiced them till they made you
> boring? In Cessna, Piper, Grumman, whatever? Have you given any
> thought about what might have caused the crash Of CO3407 recently
> near Buffalo NY? The airplane was a DH8-Q400. Google that airplane
> and crashes...you might be surprised.
>
> Beyond that have a look at this video by FAA/NASA about icing that
> we all should share:
>
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2238323060735779946 <http://
> video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2238323060735779946>
>
> It would seem we need to give much more thought to the procedures
> that have been embedded into us all through our training as pilots.
>
> Tim
>
>
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