Thanks Graig
I well understand your thoughts and math is easy of course.
I shortened the stick about 100 mm /4".
Stick loads are perfect in my mind now - I did like to get some extra response
because do not like too sensitive feeling (old Cessna pilots syndrom).
The dark side of the shortening was the fat grip came also lower - that was the
bad influence.
Now my arm rest is my port side thig and that is good.
One possible solution: change the aileron transmission ratio in the spar tunnel.
That make even more lateral stick loads but would be ok for me personally.
Raimo OH-XRT
93 hrs, 197 landings.
----- Original Message -----
From: "craig bastin" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: cockpit module alignment /control column
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> You say you have shortened the CC, which means you MAY be ok with what you
> have.
> If you have shortened the stick 50%, then your movements would be down to
> 11.25cm f/A
> and 14cm Lat. The down side is your stick load will double with half the
> stick gone.
> Not knowing how long your stick is now, I will let you do the math. If you
> dont like the
> full stick height because you have to hold your arm up, maybe an arm rest
> would resolve
> the ergonomic position issues.
>
> craig
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Raimo Toivio
> Sent: Wednesday, 24 September 2008 8:41 PM
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: cockpit module alignment /control column
>
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> Rowland
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> > Near the top of the page it says "orientate the column such that the
> > tube cranks aft and slightly inboard so that there is equal space
> > between it and each of your thighs" and obviously you have to sit in
> > it to check that positioning.
> >
> > But near the bottom of the page it says "check that the minimum
> > control movement that can be achieved without interference, is 22.5
> > cm (9") fore and aft and 28 cm (11") laterally" but it does NOT say
> > you should be sitting in it for that check; I had just mentally
> > connected the two!
>
> That was and still is my problem. So, please check movements carefully!
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> I cannot achieve full aileron movements port/starboard because my cc hits to
> my fucken thighs.
> OK - my thighs are definetely not like lollipop sticks and I have considered
> some plastical surgery
> operations to make them thinner but my test pilot - weighing less than 130
> lbs - had same problem!
> He stated -this plane is not for aerobatics!
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> OK - one reason for that problem is my fat fighter type stick grip which is
> full of switches etc
> and secondly - I have shortened cc to get its position more erconomical and
> to fit my taste.
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> Resultant: no aerobatics and limited tolerans for sidewind (so far max only
> 24 knots)!
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> I should do something but all solutions are unfunny (remove grip and/or
> lenghten the column).
> I do not know what to do. David B advised me: let it be and accept this
> limitation.
> Until this day that is the best thing I can do. Ideas? Remove inner muscles
> from my both thigs?
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> Maybe it is a small sacrifice for total satisfactory piloting.
>
> Be care, Rowland
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> Raimo OH-XRT
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