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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Spins
From: William Daniell <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:25:09
I would thoroughly concur.  I did an =93unusual attitudes=94 course in 
St
Augustine in an extra 300 and would thoroughly recommend it.  great fun 
and
huge confidence builder.


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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Spins


In a message dated 8/5/2008 3:01:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
europa-list@matronics.com writes:

Secondly - Stall and spin accidents on approach. Low down and in the 
pattern, these are often fatal.


Hi John and All,


Adding to John's excellent commentary, over the years while I was 
operating
a glider tow club I took dozens and dozens of folks for glider rides. 
Many
of these folks were power only pilots and had never been in a glider 
before.


Personally, I like doing spins in gliders. Spins are a great way to get 
down
at the end of the day in a glider. Very often when doing rides I would 
spin
down if I had another pilot on board. Of course, I always ask if they 
want
to do a spin before I "show them their toes."


One of the things I've noticed when I've done spins with power only 
pilots,
and it's been almost universal, is power only pilots, unless they have
military training, seem to genuinely fear spins. I can see this fear 
from
the back seat when the pilot/passenger tightly grips hand holds in the
cockpit, or if they get really quiet just as you enter the spin. This is 
not
a good thing because if you fear something it usually means that you 
don't
understand it. 


I believe the root of this fear is because spins, generally speaking, 
are
not taught in power planes and most pilots rarely, if ever, practice 
spins.
Student pilots are told what a spin is, how to recover, then are usually
told to avoid them. Stall/spin recovery is taught in gliders, though. 
Spin
training is also available in power planes.


I would suggest that anyone who is uncertain of, or anyone who has 
genuine
fear of spins, go take spin training and rid yourself of that fear. Most
glider schools offer spin training and most aerobatic flight instructors
also offer spin training. There are many bad habits pilots have in 
regard to
spins, particularly in terms of spin recovery. These bad habits, like 
trying
to stop the spin by applying opposite aileron, will make a bad situation
much worse when close to the ground. Pilots can avoid these bad habits 
with
the proper spin training. Everyone should learn the correct spin entry 
and
recovery techniques so well that they become second nature. It's just an
added arrow in your quiver of piloting skills and a skill that might one 
day
save your life.


Much like aerobatics, spins shouldn't be feared, unless, of course, you 
are
too close to the ground to recover. Like aerobatics and unusual attitude
recovery training, proper spin training will assist you in not ever 
putting
yourself into a position where a spin will kill you.


That's my 2 cents.


Regards,


John Lawton
Whitwell, TN (TN89)
N245E - Flying


Checked by AVG. 
04-Aug-08
19:23



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