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Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting

Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting
From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 18:22:07

Rowland, Michael,

I finally had to opportunity to get under my aircraft and pull the  
masking from the wheel well area so I could get in to see what is  
going on.  There is no aluminum plate in there.  It is some sort of  
reinforced area and I have no idea what is actually acting as  
reinforcement.

I guess your CM is OK.  Get that brake master installed.

Good building and great flying,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
(95% done, only 95% to go) tail kit done, wings closed, cockpit module  
installed, pitch system in, landing gear complete, rudder system in  
with Singleton Mod, outrigger mod in, Fuselage Top on, lift/drag/flap  
pins in, wing incidence set, tie bar in, flap drive in,  baggage bay  
in. Fuel system complete.  Rotax and Airmaster installed.  Mods 62,  
66, 70 & 72 done.  Completed the instrument panel install.   Europa  
interior kit being installed.  Installed windows.  Working in -  25  
Electrical, 28 Flaps, 30 Fuel System, 32 Tail, 34 Door Latches & 35  
Doors, 37 Finishing.   Mostly finishing these days.
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX  76208
Home:  940-497-2123
Cel:  817-992-1117


On Jul 4, 2008, at 8:41, Michael Grass wrote:

> >
>
> Bob, Rowland,
>
> I have the piece here in my hands as it was a part I had to cut away  
> to make room for my trigear brake cylinder mod. No metal insert  
> here. I have to admit, if you do not attempt to shine light through,  
> it has the appearance of a metal insert.
>
> Regards
>
> Michael Grass
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Borger" <rlborger@mac.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: 2008-07-03 11:15
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: mono brake mounting
>
>
>>
>> Rowland,
>>
>> I can confirm that my cockpit module had an aluminum plate for the  
>> brake master cylinder mount  molded into the cockpit module.  If  
>> you will go to my build web site ( http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL/ 
>>  ), album Year #2, Q3 2004.  Go down the page to the pic "Brake  
>> master cylinder bolted in place."  The view is from the bottom of  
>> the cockpit module.  You can plainly see the aluminum plate bonded  
>> into the cockpit module.
>>
>> You should contact the factory to see if your CM is correct or  
>> defective. If your CM has been bonded in place already, it may be  
>> that you just need to bond the appropriate chunk of aluminum to the  
>> back side with Araldite and cover with a couple plys of BID.  Or,  
>> perhaps take the appropriate chunk of aluminum, use it as a  
>> template to mark the area on the inside of the CM where it will  
>> reside.  Cut out the inner layer of BID and remove the layer of  
>> foam.  Bond the chunk of aluminum in place with Araldite, using  
>> Araldite/FLOX to fill any cracks.  If necessary, make a FLOX fillet  
>> around to provide a transition to the inner skin, and lay up at  
>> least two layers of BID on the back side, maybe more.  Other folks  
>> suggestions as to the number of layups would be welcome.  Probably  
>> need to overlap the inner skin by at least 1 inch (2.5 cm).  I  
>> might go 2 inches (5 cm).  Of course, be sure to scuff sand every  
>> bonding surface, aluminum and fiberglass.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Good building and great flying,
>> Bob Borger
>> Cell: 817-992-1117 (U.S.A access codes)
>>
>> On Thursday, July 03, 2008, at 09:30AM, "Rowland Carson" 
>> <rowlandcarson@googlemail.com

>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>> There is a metal insert in the tunnel wall (the area you call the
>>>> "plain resin area"). The mounting holes need to go in this area,
>>>> parallel to the top of the tunnel as shown in the illustration
>>>
>>> John - thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> The metal insert in my cockpit module must be a quite exotic alloy  
>>> as
>>> I can see through it! That's why I said it was a "plain resin"  
>>> area -
>>> obviously it has glass weave too.
>>>
>>> But now I'm wondering - is my cockpit module faulty? Can anyone else
>>> confirm that the brake master cylinder mounting area contains a  
>>> metal
>>> insert as John found on his?
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> Rowland
>>> -- 
>>> | Rowland Carson                  ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ...
>>> | <rowlandcarson@googlemail.com>          http://home.clara.net/rowil/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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