Thanks for the reply, as far as my post goes, I have no problems with flying
at VNE, When i did my licence it was mostly in a Piper Tomahawk, most tomies
are slow and predictable except for the stall, (I flew a few different ones)
but the main one had a different prop and would run through VNE in cruise
flight if you didnt watch it, which IMHO was a good thing as it meant you
had to slow down to VA if things got bumpy, so it taught you be concious of
your airspeed at all times, not just takeoff landing etc. My main reason
for suggesting the modeling was to maybe see if the VNE could be increased
at reduced MTOW. Sort of working backwards from the ultimate load of 8.55g
suggested by europa at the standard MTOW of 1300 or 1370 a reduction of
about
40 lbs would seem to suggest a new ultimate load of 9.0 g which is what is
required for a full aerobatic rating in australia of 6.0g (+50% safety
margin) which would intern mean an increase in VNE provided no flutter
issues
are a problem, which is where the computer modeling comes in. As far as the
signoff goes, dont get me wrong I am enjoying the build, seeing it grow, and
getting satisfaction from each bit i finish, but all my spare cash goes into
the plane so flying for the moment is not happening, thats why i wish it was
built, especially when we get a day thats almost calm with unlimited vis
and temps in the 20's it makes me want to be up there.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of josok
Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Dive to Vne
Craigh,
It is a gross misunderstanding that anybody should be worried about flutter,
VNE etc. The Europa is a wonderfull design, and is better tested then most
kit planes. I thind we are under-appreciating the lot of work that Ivan and
his friends have put in to it. After that, the type has tens of thousands of
flying hours without any structural problem. Most of that worrying seems te
be done by folks who are not flying their plane yet. Don't! Enjoy the build,
and you will enjoy the result. Your sign-off makes me frown, you can fly
today if you want, rent-a-plane or so. Don't hurry the build, it leads to
frustration, and you will finish building before the plane is ready.:-)
Computer modelling is fine, maybe there are areas where improvement is
possible. But i doubt it will return anything usefull for the money.
Regards,
Jos Okhuijsen
Visit - www.EuropaOwners.org
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